I am looking for a 1970 W series sleeper cabover with a aluminum cab with a cummins motor that the cab is in decent shape. Any one have one for sale.

 

Try JT's antique trucks in western Pa. I think he has one. I have no contact info for him, but you can google JT's antique trucks and he should come up.

 

Thanks for the information. I had found that one but it has a detroit in and dayton wheels. We will kept looking surely the right truck is out there.

 

I wondered that as well. When I am running through California I see them hauling loads pretty often. Where arw they? There should be a lot more of them on the road. I ran across a 74 W9000 a few days ago on Dallas Craiglist. It had a 350 Cummins.

 

Their has been several 73-74 for sale around here over the years but I am trying to find a 70 with the aluminum cab. Want to stay with the 70 as it still has the big ford letters and old style grill. The few pre 70's I have found within driving distance are the ones like we had when I was a young man and are steel cabs and rusted beyond repair. I know some where there is a decent 70 with aluminum cab bud wheels and cummins engine that is for sale.

 

I have heard the old 6N71 Detroits weren't much. I would what it would cose to convert it to a 350 Cummins or a 400 Cummins? I have been looking for a H Series for a long time, but I haven't been able to find one anywhere. I wonder if it's because they are steel cabs and have rusted away into nothing? I wonder if Louisville, who built the CL Series, also built the W Series? That plant opened in 1969 so I guess it would be conceivable for them to build the W Series as well itleast from 1970-1977.

 

There was a nice H model been on a farm for years last few months by Springfield Mo for $8,500 but it had a 534 gas in it. I heard he got his money. Most of the H in this area were like the W with the steel cabs they had rusted away.

 

I would love to of seen that! I heard that 534 was a beast! I am going to try to stop in at the Truckers Museum in the morning on my way through Davenport, IA in the morning. Hopefully they will have a H or a W Series. I wonder if you are required to have a CDL to drive one if you aren't hauling commercially, but are hauling your own antiques around?

 

CDL exemptions for personal stuff vary by state, and iirc, you have to stay in that state. I've looked them up before, but anyone can go to their DMV site and look them up for their state.

 

That makes sense. I know I have seen a lot of older gentlemen in tractors towing their 5th wheel, etc. Instead of a d.o.t. # it just says private coach. I don't think they would have to keep a log book, or cross the scales, or anything......

 

Depends upon the state as to scales, WA state now requires all trucks, private or commercial over 16k to stop at scales, although unless in "commerce" (definition of a commercial use), none of the CDL logging / DOT requirements apply to these private trucks.

However if you are driving what would be considered a Class B or Class A truck if commercially used, and even if it is privately owned, you still have to have a CDL license to legally drive it. Although again, none of the hours of service or other "commercial" drivers rules apply.

The thinking is that even if privately owned, such a Class A or B truck still needs the additional training and skill set of a commercial drivers license.

Farm use rules are a little different.

Anything that is registered as a RV is exempt from any of the above, even a 50k bus conversion with air brakes. But not in CA, they have RV rules.

Rule is to check your state, and don't cross state lines without checking that states rules, they are not as uniform as the commercial 48 state rules. Yes, 48 state, as special commercial rules apply to Alaska and Hawaii

David

 

I haul commercially with a F350. We aren't required to have a CDL because our GCWR doesn't exceed 26,000 lbs. Some states we have to cross the Scales. All Ports of Entry we have to come into the scale houses and show our paperwork. Some states, like California, gets mad if you enter their scalehouse with a Pickup whether you are hauling commercially or not.

I am currently on my way from Idaho Falls, ID to Florida. Right now I am in Illinois, and I still haven't seen one single W Series, H Series, or a CL Series on this trip.

 

Yes that is the way it is in WA as well, if the GCWR is 26k or less, no CDL is required. Stopping at scales though is still required anytime the registered weight is 16k and above.

Even if the trailer weighs 10001 lbs.... witch if towed by a truck 26001 lbs and over (Class B) would actually be considered a Class A CDL required. That magic number of 26k and less sure makes things easier!

I occasionally see a the Ford conventional, only observed four C series in the last few years, and never a W or a H on the open road. Strangely enough, two of the C series visit the same quarry as I do, something about the short wheelbase for tight deliveries keeps these old soldiers going. Mine is the only gas C left though, the other two are diesels.

But the old Ford iron is getting harder to find every day, even the older F series are almost impossible to find in this area, at least on the road, you still see them for sale though. There have been a couple of W series for sale over the last few years though locally.

It does take a different mindset to crawl up hills with these older trucks, being passed by it seems even a little old lady in a wheelchair!

David

 

So even if my GVWR is 9,200 with my F350, but my license plate has 26,000 I am still supposed to stop? I never do, and I just crossed Washington on US 2 about 3 weeks ago.

Now if I am towing a Camper with a GVWR of 11,500 and my truck having 9,200 I stop at the Scales.

 

I have noticed that as well. I have seen the L Series for sale often (excluding the CL), but I don't see them on the roads much. Is it because of parts availability? I would've thought most Class 8 yrucks had roughly the same parts availability for suspension parts, etc.