When is an intercooler absolutely necessary?
#1
When is an intercooler absolutely necessary?
1997 7.3 with 143,000. I'm not gonna be pushing to much hp/tq at all. I'll probably run it on the 100hp -140hp setting a hand full of times, and I only do a moderate amount of towing.
I'm trying to avoid that $1,100+ price tag while maintaining the longevity of my truck.
Here's a list of what I'll be running in a couple weeks.
1: Riffraff Diesel Triple Gauge Pillar Kit for Ford 7.3L 99-03 (wrong year, but you get the point.)
2: Bosch 7.3L Powerstroke 17º HPOP 96-97 Ford - HP005X
3: Riffraff Diesel Hutch In-Tank Fuel Mod Kit - Riffraff Diesel Performance
4: TS Performance 6 Position Chip w/ Tunes (possibly hydra, but custom tunes either way.)
5: MBRP 4" Turbo Back Stainless T409 Exhaust for Ford 7.3L (94-97)
6: S&B OBS Powerstroke Cold Air Intake Kit - Dry
7: Riffraff Diesel Billet Compressor Wheel 94-03 (RDP170293)
8: https://www.xtremediesel.com/ats-303...tor-valve-body
9: https://www.xtremediesel.com/bd-powe...ansmission-pan
All in all, it's a pretty simple setup.
I'm trying to avoid that $1,100+ price tag while maintaining the longevity of my truck.
Here's a list of what I'll be running in a couple weeks.
1: Riffraff Diesel Triple Gauge Pillar Kit for Ford 7.3L 99-03 (wrong year, but you get the point.)
2: Bosch 7.3L Powerstroke 17º HPOP 96-97 Ford - HP005X
3: Riffraff Diesel Hutch In-Tank Fuel Mod Kit - Riffraff Diesel Performance
4: TS Performance 6 Position Chip w/ Tunes (possibly hydra, but custom tunes either way.)
5: MBRP 4" Turbo Back Stainless T409 Exhaust for Ford 7.3L (94-97)
6: S&B OBS Powerstroke Cold Air Intake Kit - Dry
7: Riffraff Diesel Billet Compressor Wheel 94-03 (RDP170293)
8: https://www.xtremediesel.com/ats-303...tor-valve-body
9: https://www.xtremediesel.com/bd-powe...ansmission-pan
All in all, it's a pretty simple setup.
#3
I really like the Hydra and the Derale pan.
PHP Hydra Chip (PHP-HYDRA)
Derale Transmission Pan Coolers - 14208
PHP Hydra Chip (PHP-HYDRA)
Derale Transmission Pan Coolers - 14208
#4
I run a used TS chip with Gearhead tunes. Hydra is a better platform but costs more. I am pleased for how little I am into my setup.
Diamond Eye exhausts work just as well and cost less. Check them out. Deals are coming soon because of Thanksgiving weekend.
Make sure uppipes are not leaking!
Diamond Eye exhausts work just as well and cost less. Check them out. Deals are coming soon because of Thanksgiving weekend.
Make sure uppipes are not leaking!
#5
Any opinions on when to add an itntercooler? Also, in theory, if I added a larger turbo (nothing much larger than stock.), wouldn't it help lower EGT's also? So, instead of spending $1'400 on an intercooler, I could spend it on something that will also increase power while continuing to move air. Keep in mind -- I'm talking out of my *** because, at best, I could be considered a hobbyist "mechanic'.
#7
1997 7.3 with 143,000. I'm not gonna be pushing to much hp/tq at all. I'll probably run it on the 100hp -140hp setting a hand full of times, and I only do a moderate amount of towing.
I'm trying to avoid that $1,100+ price tag while maintaining the longevity of my truck.
Here's a list of what I'll be running in a couple weeks.
1: Riffraff Diesel Triple Gauge Pillar Kit for Ford 7.3L 99-03 (wrong year, but you get the point.)
A. Excellent, First thing to do when aquiring a diesel truck
2: Bosch 7.3L Powerstroke 17º HPOP 96-97 Ford - HP005X
A. Good idea but no necessary unless you upgrade to bigger sticks.
3: Riffraff Diesel Hutch In-Tank Fuel Mod Kit - Riffraff Diesel Performance
A. You build your own for alot less
4: TS Performance 6 Position Chip w/ Tunes (possibly hydra, but custom tunes either way.)
A. Hydra hands down lots of free downloads unlike a TS where we need to send out for new tunes.
5: MBRP 4" Turbo Back Stainless T409 Exhaust for Ford 7.3L (94-97)
A. Diamond Eye is cheper in price and hasnt had a bad fitment issue. (Down pipe at a minimum)
6: S&B OBS Powerstroke Cold Air Intake Kit - Dry
A. Nice kit a bit expensive the other cheap alternative is a 6637 air filter mod thats if you dont mind the noise.
7: Riffraff Diesel Billet Compressor Wheel 94-03 (RDP170293)
A. Work great but would never compare to a t/4 set up. I would also recommend looking into SPTurboost turbo rebuild kit and billet wheels.
8: https://www.xtremediesel.com/ats-303...tor-valve-body
A. No comment. No experince what so ever with trannys.
9: https://www.xtremediesel.com/bd-powe...ansmission-pan
A. A deep oil pan aint going to do squat it's only bling.
invest in a 6.0 transmission cooler, it will be a key factor for your tranny to live a long, long life.
All in all, it's a pretty simple setup.
I'm trying to avoid that $1,100+ price tag while maintaining the longevity of my truck.
Here's a list of what I'll be running in a couple weeks.
1: Riffraff Diesel Triple Gauge Pillar Kit for Ford 7.3L 99-03 (wrong year, but you get the point.)
A. Excellent, First thing to do when aquiring a diesel truck
2: Bosch 7.3L Powerstroke 17º HPOP 96-97 Ford - HP005X
A. Good idea but no necessary unless you upgrade to bigger sticks.
3: Riffraff Diesel Hutch In-Tank Fuel Mod Kit - Riffraff Diesel Performance
A. You build your own for alot less
4: TS Performance 6 Position Chip w/ Tunes (possibly hydra, but custom tunes either way.)
A. Hydra hands down lots of free downloads unlike a TS where we need to send out for new tunes.
5: MBRP 4" Turbo Back Stainless T409 Exhaust for Ford 7.3L (94-97)
A. Diamond Eye is cheper in price and hasnt had a bad fitment issue. (Down pipe at a minimum)
6: S&B OBS Powerstroke Cold Air Intake Kit - Dry
A. Nice kit a bit expensive the other cheap alternative is a 6637 air filter mod thats if you dont mind the noise.
7: Riffraff Diesel Billet Compressor Wheel 94-03 (RDP170293)
A. Work great but would never compare to a t/4 set up. I would also recommend looking into SPTurboost turbo rebuild kit and billet wheels.
8: https://www.xtremediesel.com/ats-303...tor-valve-body
A. No comment. No experince what so ever with trannys.
9: https://www.xtremediesel.com/bd-powe...ansmission-pan
A. A deep oil pan aint going to do squat it's only bling.
invest in a 6.0 transmission cooler, it will be a key factor for your tranny to live a long, long life.
All in all, it's a pretty simple setup.
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#8
As for your IC question IMHO I would do it regardless if you tow or not, its a safe assurance and also a key factor in engine reliability, remember the Super Duty's came with one, and if you plan on adding a hotter tune I guarantee your EGT will run hotter especially a WOT and while going up hill or towing something.
#10
Note that my own turbo is stock with the exception of a 360 degree thrust bearing so I'm just passing on what I think I've learned and it may be subject to correction which it will no doubt be if I'm wrong...
#11
With a stock setup as far as injectors no ic needed.
To that end you never have to have one except to keep egt in check you will have to back off the fuel further than with for the same amount of fuel.
This whole debate comes down to fuel vs air and having the proper amount of both.
Personally when my junk used to drive if I could keep revs up and turbo working egt was not an issue. If I got under the turbo then I was done.
Also gear ratio and tire size play into this along with load weight and type of shape you are pulling.
In my opinion only very stock trucks do not need an ic. Tunes,exh,intake,efuel I classify in the very stock arena. Once you do injectors and much pulse width then throw a lack of ic out the window.
To that end you never have to have one except to keep egt in check you will have to back off the fuel further than with for the same amount of fuel.
This whole debate comes down to fuel vs air and having the proper amount of both.
Personally when my junk used to drive if I could keep revs up and turbo working egt was not an issue. If I got under the turbo then I was done.
Also gear ratio and tire size play into this along with load weight and type of shape you are pulling.
In my opinion only very stock trucks do not need an ic. Tunes,exh,intake,efuel I classify in the very stock arena. Once you do injectors and much pulse width then throw a lack of ic out the window.
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