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Old 07-11-2014, 10:01 PM
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05 6.0 turbo surge

I have a 05 which surges upon light to moderate acceleration. It has a new IPR and a fairly new turbo. The turbo had been replaced before I bought the truck, but looks very clean and it has a reman sticker on it. The only code I have is for a cyl 6 balance/contribution which I am pretty sure sets after a cold start. It misses for the 1st 20 seconds and comes out of it and runs great. I can build 25 -26 psi of boost wot up a hill. At idle I can hear the vanes sweep through my exhaust. I have also found that if I unplug the EBP sensor that the surging goes away. I have cleaned the EBP sensor and tube, EGR valve, IAT2 sensor and the Map hose and nipple. When it is surging I can see the EBP spike from 18 to 22 PSI. Does this indicate a bad EBP sensor?
 
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If you disconnected and Surge went away I would say yes it's the sensor, have you tried tapping on the sensor while watching the gauge that will be another indication.
 
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koeo-0.8 lo-1.2 hi-1.3 operating value-0.4-4.7
 
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Watcha come up with Bud?
 
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Originally Posted by 78fordman
I have a 05 which surges upon light to moderate acceleration. It has a new IPR and a fairly new turbo. The turbo had been replaced before I bought the truck, but looks very clean and it has a reman sticker on it. The only code I have is for a cyl 6 balance/contribution which I am pretty sure sets after a cold start. It misses for the 1st 20 seconds and comes out of it and runs great. I can build 25 -26 psi of boost wot up a hill. At idle I can hear the vanes sweep through my exhaust. I have also found that if I unplug the EBP sensor that the surging goes away. I have cleaned the EBP sensor and tube, EGR valve, IAT2 sensor and the Map hose and nipple. When it is surging I can see the EBP spike from 18 to 22 PSI. Does this indicate a bad EBP sensor?
Yes it does indacate a bad sensor, but its not the ebp thats the bad sensor.
 
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Sorry I was tied up putting an injection pump on a Cummins 6bt for our airports fuel truck. I will check the koeo icp numbers and all of the ebp sensor numbers in the am.

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Sorry I was tied up putting an injection pump on a Cummins 6bt for our airports fuel truck. I will check the koeo icp numbers and all of the ebp sensor numbers in the am.

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If you ask Monty he would tell you that Cummins never need any work done to them...

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The Dodge dealer here used to keep a shelf full of lift pumps in stock.
 
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Yes it does indacate a bad sensor, but its not the ebp thats the bad sensor.
Ok Cheezit I'll bite. which is the most likely culprit?
 
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Ok Cheezit I'll bite. which is the most likely culprit?
The bad one....
My guess is the vgt selinoid
 
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Here is what i have
Koeo idle high idle (2500)
Ebp
.88. 1.15. 1.4
Icp
.25. .72-.88. 1.71-2.00

The icp would bounce a bit. This is with a ect of 190 and oil still a little cooler. Icp sensor and pigtail are dry.

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Originally Posted by MisterCMK

If you ask Monty he would tell you that Cummins never need any work done to them...

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The guy was starting it with ether, when It started taking a whole can to get it going he thought it was time to get it looked at. It was a real pain because there was a engine driven air/hydro pump right under the pump which had to come off to get the bottom bolt out. I would rather do a hpop in a 6.0 before doing another one of those again.

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Do you want vgt numbers too?

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Originally Posted by 78fordman
Here is what i have
Koeo idle high idle (2500)
Ebp
.88. 1.15. 1.4
Icp
.25. .72-.88. 1.71-2.00

The icp would bounce a bit. This is with a ect of 190 and oil still a little cooler. Icp sensor and pigtail are dry.

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Numbers look in range to me

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Do you want vgt numbers too?

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VGT koeo-0 lo -73 hi-43
you don't want at high Idle anything 15% or low 85 % thought I would throw this out
 


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