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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 07:32 AM
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A large CO<sub>2</sub> fire extinguisher discharged into the intake is also very effective.
This one - simple and brilliant. If you have a CAI, you don't even need to pop the hood - just shoot it right in the snout. This addresses so many things: It super-cools the intake, it frosts up the air filter (helping to choke the air), and it displaces the oxygen from the air. Once the engine is stalled and things warm up, the CO2 dissipates and there's nothing but moisture (from condensation) to clean up. I give that the "official" Tugly thumbs-up.

Now... how many people carry a CO2 fire extinguisher? {raising hand}

Tried to rep Pikachu on that, but jail prevails.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 09:02 AM
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Tried to rep Pikachu on that, but jail prevails.
Me too.
He deserves it for that suggestion.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Pikachu
A large CO2 fire extinguisher discharged into the intake is also very effective.
As long as its an actual CO2 extinguisher that would work wonderfully. An ordinary fire extinguisher (Read as Class ABC) would not be so pretty. Just don't want any members be confused and then come running when they have monoammonium phosphate in their engine!
 
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 11:32 AM
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I keep a bottle of Halon in my truck. It's my favorite choice of fire suppression.
Although I'm not sure if it would kill the engine if blasted into the intake?
 
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Franko72
I keep a bottle of Halon in my truck. It's my favorite choice of fire suppression.
Although I'm not sure if it would kill the engine if blasted into the intake?
Probably but idk if I'd try it. Where on earth did you get a halon extinguisher.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 12:41 PM
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Don't know if there is more that one type of Halon, been many years since I was working the that field. Just be aware that Halon used on a fire at insufficient levels can form Phosgene gas - read mustard gas. When it was first on the market it was used for computer rooms in an enclosed environment to insure a sufficient dump. However I see that it is used in race cars and I have seen hand held units as well?
 
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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Don't know if there is more that one type of Halon...
Just one type of Halon however it has been replaced with FM200. But I was thinking the same thing. Where in the heck did you gat a Halon extinguisher from? My guess would be a Dupont plant....
 
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hydro man 17
...it was used for computer rooms in an enclosed environment


Ahnold!



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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 02:05 PM
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Halon is a trade name, and there are about 15 different types of it. Halon 1211 and 1301 were the primary varieties used for fire suppression. Halon was installed in a lot of places, to computer rooms and aircraft, to boat engine rooms. I remember seeing portable halon extinguishers on the shelf in many stores, but that was years ago. Halon is still available, but I don't think it's being produced any longer. At least not in the US.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Pikachu
Halon is a trade name, and there are about 15 different types of it. Halon 1211 and 1301 were the primary varieties used for fire suppression. Halon was installed in a lot of places, to computer rooms and aircraft, to boat engine rooms. I remember seeing portable halon extinguishers on the shelf in many stores, but that was years ago. Halon is still available, but I don't think it's being produced any longer. At least not in the US.
It was outlawed in 1994. I thought the use of left over Halon extinguishers were restricted to military use. Hmm.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 02:16 PM
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Just like R12, production was banned, but not use.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 06:09 PM
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Our 1976 8V-71 Detroit powered Pierce pumpers had two engine shutoffs in the cab. The regular one shut down fuel to the rack, and the second (labeled EMERGENCY) was connected to a spring loaded damper on the air intake. In case of a runaway, the emergency shutoff would block the engine air inlet, but had to be manually reset. We also had CO2 extinguishers, but they were mainly used to cool beer.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 09:38 PM
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In 20 years of working on mainly diesel engines, I have been around 2 run away diesel engines.

One was last year on a machine with a Cat engine that had a fuel rack in it. It had been given signs that something was not quite right but nobody wanted to spend any money on it. The governor staggered on it when a load was put to it and it went full fuel and nothing would shut it down. The top to the air intake could not be removed fast enough before it went to fast to have been any good.

The second one was on an electronic detroit 50 seriesengine that had an oil seal go out on the turbo. Every manual will tell you it is a good idea to check the intercooler for oil following that type of failure, especially when u had to add as much back into the engine as they did. However, the young "tech" doing the job threw the turbo onto it and ran it out the door to show how fast he could get it done. He backed out, put it in forward, and gassed it and it went wide open and then some. It did not last long before it threw apart the lower end.

I have seen the second video of the ford truck running away. I think that one happened b/c of the engine killing stuff they put in all the engines of the vehicles bought under the"cash for clunkers" program.
 
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So those two small halon extinguishers I had in my '86 Ranger that are sitting in my cluttered garage are collectors items?
 
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A clipboard worked to shut down a 3406 cat with stuck rack before it come apart. My supervisor was changing leaking O-rings on plunger unit and got pinion out of time and stuck it.
 
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