Head gaskets for the 6.0
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Head gaskets for the 6.0
Ok guys lots of info and ive read and read and read but still am not sure what gaskets to get . Of course im going to install ARP studs
the gaskets i know of and are interested in are as fallows
*OEM ford gaskets (only issue for me is its the same one i just pulled out (blown)
*VR black onix .. read lots bad with these
* Chrometic MLX no input on these (but seem to be nice gaskets )
*Fel-pro (i handed the set back when it looked like an exhaust gasket, and weighted nuthing ) anyone running the Chrometics? the NASCAR guys seem to like um and , they have long ties in high pro racing
the gaskets i know of and are interested in are as fallows
*OEM ford gaskets (only issue for me is its the same one i just pulled out (blown)
*VR black onix .. read lots bad with these
* Chrometic MLX no input on these (but seem to be nice gaskets )
*Fel-pro (i handed the set back when it looked like an exhaust gasket, and weighted nuthing ) anyone running the Chrometics? the NASCAR guys seem to like um and , they have long ties in high pro racing
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So the OEM gaskets lasted 240k and failed as part of a larger multi-system failure. That sounds like an advertisement for success to me, I'd put them back in in a heartbeat. Sounds like the oil cooler broke loose and trashed the cooling system, not a failure of the head gaskets themselves.
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head gaskets where bad ! fire rings burned right throu ! the blue coating was mushy/greesey , the oil cooler was in perfect shape,cut it in half it was plugged , ive already torn this thing down to a bear block and starting new i dont like not knowing my motor , i just wanted a poll on whos used what gaskets and maybe mileage you reached before failure I know every inch of my motor now (blueprinted myself) and will do my own version of a egr delete, and an acc oil cooler that i control flow with as well as a new oil cooler and coolent filter i just wanna make sure im making the right choice the first time be a shame to brag about it and have a issue with a crappy gasket
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i fear this is a reman motor that's why im going thou it and guess what it looks like a 10k motor inside so yes someone has been in this motor and what really scared me is the bolts where almost over tight as if done with impact either way im going thou a complete rebuild with proper parts ! I know what im doing and the fire ring im speaking of is the area on the MLS gasket that surrounds the CC there was heat and gunk making it so it was not sealed ! ive check the block and the block is flat ! the heads are at a shop thats done many 6.0 heads getting bronze guides,and hardened seats, and a less than .0008 off the heads for flatness then pressure checked and ill re install them
i just want to put the right head gasket back in also ill be doing the 6.4 pushrods
i just want to put the right head gasket back in also ill be doing the 6.4 pushrods
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i fear this is a reman motor that's why im going thou it and guess what it looks like a 10k motor inside so yes someone has been in this motor and what really scared me is the bolts where almost over tight as if done with impact either way im going thou a complete rebuild with proper parts ! I know what im doing and the fire ring im speaking of is the area on the MLS gasket that surrounds the CC there was heat and gunk making it so it was not sealed ! ive check the block and the block is flat ! the heads are at a shop thats done many 6.0 heads getting bronze guides,and hardened seats, and a less than .0008 off the heads for flatness then pressure checked and ill re install them
i just want to put the right head gasket back in also ill be doing the 6.4 pushrods
i just want to put the right head gasket back in also ill be doing the 6.4 pushrods
Are they correct? Are they incorrect? I don't know, all I know is the OEM stuff is what failed in the first place.
So for me...I'm replacing all failed parts of mine with the highest quality AM parts I can get my hands on. I've even called multiple engine builders that have built 100s of high horse power 6.0l application engines and talked with them.
That said...I just purchased a set of Black Diamond head gaskets that are going in my 6.0 this week. They have same stamped p/n and design as the OEM the only difference I can find is the color of the "rubber" material...black vs blue.
I guess I'll let everyone know later if I made a mistake or if everything is good to go...
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Here's the deal...the overwhelming majority of FTE members seems to like the OEM hg, oil filters, fuel filter, air filters...
Are they correct? Are they incorrect? I don't know, all I know is the OEM stuff is what failed in the first place.
So for me...I'm replacing all failed parts of mine with the highest quality AM parts I can get my hands on. I've even called multiple engine builders that have built 100s of high horse power 6.0l application engines and talked with them.
That said...I just purchased a set of Black Diamond head gaskets that are going in my 6.0 this week. They have same stamped p/n and design as the OEM the only difference I can find is the color of the "rubber" material...black vs blue.
I guess I'll let everyone know later if I made a mistake or if everything is good to go...
Are they correct? Are they incorrect? I don't know, all I know is the OEM stuff is what failed in the first place.
So for me...I'm replacing all failed parts of mine with the highest quality AM parts I can get my hands on. I've even called multiple engine builders that have built 100s of high horse power 6.0l application engines and talked with them.
That said...I just purchased a set of Black Diamond head gaskets that are going in my 6.0 this week. They have same stamped p/n and design as the OEM the only difference I can find is the color of the "rubber" material...black vs blue.
I guess I'll let everyone know later if I made a mistake or if everything is good to go...
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Of all those items, none are parts that fail. HG's blow because of the bolts/heads lifting.
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I believe what he was saying is everyone's first any only response is put OEM back in , but ive built alota motors gas small blocks ,gas big block,diesel both small and big and when they had something fail that was OEM u did not put it back in. I get the filters being OEM but im not putting a HG on that I just took off , and as a Bonus today I got to hold a MLX Chrometic gasket for a 6.0 only 3 layers not 5 and there was 2 stainless layers (outer ) and one aluminum one(inside about as thick as 3 stainless ) ... stainless dont give much its actually pretty hard stuff so i never got why they had 5 layers of it with viton between the layers .... chrometic is also covered in the viton where as the VR,OEM ones just have a little bit around the important stuff .... Ill be the guy that dont put OEM back in and do the unthinkable and get something NEW lol thanks for everyone's input
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I believe what he was saying is everyone's first any only response is put OEM back in , but ive built alota motors gas small blocks ,gas big block,diesel both small and big and when they had something fail that was OEM u did not put it back in. I get the filters being OEM but im not putting a HG on that I just took off , and as a Bonus today I got to hold a MLX Chrometic gasket for a 6.0 only 3 layers not 5 and there was 2 stainless layers (outer ) and one aluminum one(inside about as thick as 3 stainless ) ... stainless dont give much its actually pretty hard stuff so i never got why they had 5 layers of it with viton between the layers .... chrometic is also covered in the viton where as the VR,OEM ones just have a little bit around the important stuff .... Ill be the guy that dont put OEM back in and do the unthinkable and get something NEW lol thanks for everyone's input