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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 08:14 AM
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extended crank when cold

Had a dumb question. my 6.0 takes longer to crank when its cold whether it is 40 or 70 (our weather here has been bouncing from one extreme to another lately) take about 20 seconds to fire but when it starts it is smooth no misses or anything.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 08:18 AM
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What year model? Are you running OEM filter and oil cap? What weight oil? Have you code scanned the truck to see if you have a glow plug problem? Have you tried waiting 30 seconds after the wait to start light goes out before starting the truck? Also, check the FICM voltage to see that it's correct and have a charging system test run. Load test the batteries separately.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by sams6.9
Had a dumb question. my 6.0 takes longer to crank when its cold whether it is 40 or 70 (our weather here has been bouncing from one extreme to another lately) take about 20 seconds to fire but when it starts it is smooth no misses or anything.
You need a set of gauges that read live data like the scan gauge II or one of the smartphone apps like Dashboss for IOS devices or torque pro for android. It may be your FICM as FICM problems usually rear their ugly head on cold starts, there is a FICM test procedure in the tech folder at the top of this forum that shows you how to test your FICM voltage with a volt meter, here is a link to the tech folder, https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/3...ch-folder.html
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 09:05 AM
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Yes it has OEM filter an cap, has motorcraft 15W-40 in it, batteries are maybe 6 months old (motorcraft) had them tested the other day while they were out of the truck, charging system checks out ok, have tried waiting prolly 20 seconds after the WTS light went out, i might try an wait longer, will have to look at checking the ficm.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 09:06 AM
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Oh and it is a 2006 sorry forgot to add that.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 09:30 AM
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And it starts fine hot?
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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Yes starts like a brand new one when its hot or say I start it cold let it idle for a min shut it off an wait a few min it will crank right on up.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 10:07 AM
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Do you normally park the truck where it would sit nose up for an extended period and then experience the long crank to start?
 
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No it usually sits level in the barn.
 
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My thinking with the sitting level question was that maybe the HPO reservoir was bleeding down through the pump, because it sounds to me like you're having to "charge" the HPO system to get the injectors to fire. Just a guess on my part though.

You're really going to need something to monitor live data to diagnose this problem. Torque Pro, Dash Boss, Scangauge II, Auto Enginuity, Edge CTS, will all help in that area.
 
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Next cold start remove the ICP sensor, there should be oil visible under the threads. If the oil level is dropped you have an HPO leak.


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Ok I tried waiting about 45 seconds after the wait to start light went out before I started it and it started right on up, so maybe glow plugs are on there way out?
 
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Originally Posted by sams6.9
Ok I tried waiting about 45 seconds after the wait to start light went out before I started it and it started right on up, so maybe glow plugs are on there way out?
If you have a glow plug problem it should throw a CEL but may only throw a code and not set the CEL. Any major parts store can scan it to see.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 03:25 PM
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ok I read the live data off of the truck when I got home from work so here it is some of it might be useless but im putting it all down, just need a little help decoding some of the info. thanks sam

calc load % 23.1
ect 174
map 29.8
ecu volts 13.453
acc pedal d % 19.2
acc pedal e % 29.0
warm up dtc clear 10
clr dist 363
baro 29.2
command egr % 29.8
egr error % 4.7
fuel level 93.3
aux input status off
run time sec 1579
mil dis 0
iat 79
maf 2.6
eng rpm 690
 
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Old Apr 7, 2014 | 03:40 PM
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Ok I tried waiting about 45 seconds after the wait to start light went out before I started it and it started right on up, so maybe glow plugs are on there way out?
This is the single most prominent error people make when they cant start it cold. 45 seconds is normal for 30-40 degrees. 1.5 minutes may be needed up north when its below 0.
This is normal and doesn't sound like you have GP issues.
 
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