"Why is truck trying to stall/quit out on me?"
#16
Like the others have said, what you described pulling is not the PCM, it's the IDM. Yet the DPC-421 is a PCM calibration. Something is getting mixed up here.
Did your mechanic happen to give you the diagnostic codes? That would tell us so much more.
Oh, and you don't have to have the VIN and milage flashed onto a PCM. Your mechanic told you wrong.
First things first, sounds like you need a new mechanic.
Second, you need more information.
Did your mechanic happen to give you the diagnostic codes? That would tell us so much more.
Oh, and you don't have to have the VIN and milage flashed onto a PCM. Your mechanic told you wrong.
First things first, sounds like you need a new mechanic.
Second, you need more information.
It was me giving bad information. It is the IDM we worked on in the past not the PCM. I had to look in my old records at my last repair bill and the personal repair log I keep on the truck.
It was the auto parts guys telling me that I need to get the VIN and mileage flashed onto a new PCM. Even though that's probably not what I need now.
I don't have the diagnostics codes but I just remembered my friend and neighbor who has a 2003 F250 gas engine telling me about a place locally called "Superchips" that will do a diagnostics on your truck.
I'm going to call them Monday and see what they say.
#17
The chances of it being a PCM are miniscule. The chances of it being an IDM (inside the driver-side fender) are a little higher. The chances of it being the Under Valve Cover Harness are huge. The UVCH is a Saturday with a wrench and $100 worth of parts (or 50 cents to modify it).
Before grabbing any wrenches, grab a multimeter. The 42-pin connector is over the driver-side valve cover. A 10mm socket will spin the connector off (ignition key in your pocket). Ohm out P+ with all the odd numbers, and D+ with all the even numbers. They should all be close to 3 ohms.
Before grabbing any wrenches, grab a multimeter. The 42-pin connector is over the driver-side valve cover. A 10mm socket will spin the connector off (ignition key in your pocket). Ohm out P+ with all the odd numbers, and D+ with all the even numbers. They should all be close to 3 ohms.
His question is if it doesn't give close to a 3 ohm reading what then?
#18
#19
How would a valve cover gasket or harness affect the way the engine runs?
I'm from the old school working on Mopar muscle cars back in my youth but gave it up years ago. I would never associate a valve cover gasket or wiring harness with an engine ignition problem.
The diesel is a whole new world for me.
I started buying them for their pulling power. That and I get better mileage than a gas engine.
I'm from the old school working on Mopar muscle cars back in my youth but gave it up years ago. I would never associate a valve cover gasket or wiring harness with an engine ignition problem.
The diesel is a whole new world for me.
I started buying them for their pulling power. That and I get better mileage than a gas engine.
#21
How would a valve cover gasket or harness affect the way the engine runs?
I'm from the old school working on Mopar muscle cars back in my youth but gave it up years ago. I would never associate a valve cover gasket or wiring harness with an engine ignition problem.
The diesel is a whole new world for me.
I started buying them for their pulling power. That and I get better mileage than a gas engine.
I'm from the old school working on Mopar muscle cars back in my youth but gave it up years ago. I would never associate a valve cover gasket or wiring harness with an engine ignition problem.
The diesel is a whole new world for me.
I started buying them for their pulling power. That and I get better mileage than a gas engine.
#22
Just watched a video where he is doing the 50 cent mod fix.
At the end of the video is says the quarter is going to hold the connector out so it doesn't slide "out" anymore. Isn't this contrary to what he needs?
At the beginning of the video he says the problem is that the connector keeps coming loose. Does this connector slide down to another connector or against the one next to it in the video?
I just starting to learn with these diesels so have a little patience with me please.
At the end of the video is says the quarter is going to hold the connector out so it doesn't slide "out" anymore. Isn't this contrary to what he needs?
At the beginning of the video he says the problem is that the connector keeps coming loose. Does this connector slide down to another connector or against the one next to it in the video?
I just starting to learn with these diesels so have a little patience with me please.
#24
What would be involved with changing out the IDM. Other than removing the fender well and then the unit. Think I got that part down.
I'm not even sure what an IDM is. What's involved with buying one?
How expensive are they usually.
Not ignoring all the other great replies to the thread just responding to each post individually getting all the information I can.
Thanks.
I'm not even sure what an IDM is. What's involved with buying one?
How expensive are they usually.
Not ignoring all the other great replies to the thread just responding to each post individually getting all the information I can.
Thanks.
Pull it off and check for corrosion as that was the problem before. clean it up with some electrical QD cleaner and put some dielectric grease on the plug when you put it back in. That will prevent it from corroding again.
#25
To change the title, go to your first post and select "Edit". When the new screen comes up, click "Advanced" on the lower right. This allows you to change the text in the "Title" window up top.
"B.E.S.T. map" is a link in my signature below - go ahead and click it. The flags on the map are the locations of volunteers with scan tools that can help out, if they have the time. The scan tool is what we use to "listen" to the systems on our trucks, the same way the stealership puts the truck "on the computer". The stealership charges over $100 per event, where we do it for ourselves (or others) as often as we want for free, once we have paid for the hardware/software one time.
Under Valve Cover Harness can come loose... and when it does, the ohms on that 42-pin connector go way up from the 3 ohms. When the ohms are high, that means the valve covers have to come off and the UVCH needs some attention. I know you saw the 50-cent mod on a video... but that is not always a guaranteed fix. Here is the 50-cent fail from my truck (right before I bought new UVCHs):
And this is what it looks like inside the valve covers (my injectors are new, so yours will look more aged). You can see the UVCH along the top side of the injector solenoids (yellow boxes):
"B.E.S.T. map" is a link in my signature below - go ahead and click it. The flags on the map are the locations of volunteers with scan tools that can help out, if they have the time. The scan tool is what we use to "listen" to the systems on our trucks, the same way the stealership puts the truck "on the computer". The stealership charges over $100 per event, where we do it for ourselves (or others) as often as we want for free, once we have paid for the hardware/software one time.
Under Valve Cover Harness can come loose... and when it does, the ohms on that 42-pin connector go way up from the 3 ohms. When the ohms are high, that means the valve covers have to come off and the UVCH needs some attention. I know you saw the 50-cent mod on a video... but that is not always a guaranteed fix. Here is the 50-cent fail from my truck (right before I bought new UVCHs):
And this is what it looks like inside the valve covers (my injectors are new, so yours will look more aged). You can see the UVCH along the top side of the injector solenoids (yellow boxes):
#26
When you say misfire do mean it would act like it was going to stall and then kick back up when you were sitting idling or it would what I call "buck" you when driving down the road?
#27
Either , or. But I would ohm them out, also check the connection your mechanic cleaned and re-clean and use the dielectric grease. I'd do all that before buying a new IDM or PCM. Getting the codes read also should send you in the right direction. You can also post the codes, there is some smart guys on here.
#28
When the ohms are high, that means the valve covers have to come off and the UVCH needs some attention. I know you saw the 50-cent mod on a video... but that is not always a guaranteed fix. Here is the 50-cent fail from my truck (right before I bought new UVCHs):
And this is what it looks like inside the valve covers (my injectors are new, so yours will look more aged). You can see the UVCH along the top side of the injector solenoids (yellow boxes):
And this is what it looks like inside the valve covers (my injectors are new, so yours will look more aged). You can see the UVCH along the top side of the injector solenoids (yellow boxes):