I never expected to start a "what its worth" thread, but here goes. I bought the rear axle, brake drums, and wheels from a very rusted out 1941 3/4 ton pickup. The truck also had a light duty 3 speed transmission with a tall rear bearing retainer. On initial inspection the gears in the transmission look decent. I think this setup will allow you to bolt a light duty three speed into an F-2 through F-6. This would be a nice setup for someone who isn't hauling a heavy load and wants to get rid of their 4 speed crashbox. I checked the Green Book and found rear bearing retainer 01Y-7085 (NOT 01Y-7085-A) was applicable to 1938 to 1942 commercial and 122" wheel base trucks only. I'm guessing that after the war Ford didn't want to mess with the light duty transmission in a heavy duty truck.

The transmission is in central Texas. The owner would be willing to sell it if the price is right. Anyway, my questions are:
1 - what do you think is a reasonable price to pay for the transmission assembly including the rear bearing retainer? Remember you would pay shipping on top of the transmission cost.
2 - what do you think is a reasonable price to pay for the rear bearing retainer? I am guessing that shipping cost for this would be a lot less than for the whole transmission.

I'm not selling this and I do not benefit in any way from the selling of this.

 

I have no idea on value/cost. Guess it depends on who needs it and how bad?
Is this trans like the T-87 3 speeds from the 48-52 trucks??
Im curious about them but not enough to pay shipping.

 

1948/56 Ford Truck Parts Catalog:

8J-7001-B .. T-87 3 Speed H/D Manual Transmission (floor shift): 1948/52 F2/F5, P3 (Parcel Delivery), B5 (School Bus) & C5 (COE).

Green Bible has a star next to 01Y-7085 .. At the bottom of the page, the star refers to bus type transmission.

01Y-7085 applications: 1938/42 Commercial (1/2 ton) & 122" wheelbase 1 ton; 1939/42 122" wheelbase 3/4 ton.

 

38 Coupe,
I'm interested in following this thread. I've been trying to learn what options I have in swapping my crash box for a smoother tranny with floor shift. I need a direct bolt on with no modifications. I have a 52 F3 long box. I don't plan to haul anything in this beauty! Would you help with my education as far as the one you reference here? Thanks for any input you can provide.

I have received good info from this site, but being new at it, I need several perspectives to figure what to do.

 

True. The only other option according to that parts book is 01D 7085, only used on 40 to 47 3/4 ton trucks. I guess I missed it the first time I looked at that page.

The transmission is definitely a light duty three speed with the straight cut pickup truck low / reverse slider gear set in it. Here are some pictures of it. According to my dad, who took the pictures, "The gears in the transmission look really good, there is no play in the input shaft. What you see is ancient gear oil on the gears after I turned the transmission over a couple of times."






The rear mount sure looks like it would bolt into an F-2 to me. And according to the 48-56 truck parts book the rear bearing retainer is the same for F-2 to F-6. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Hmmm, in the 7085 section of the 1/52 book I count five different part numbers for F-2 through F-6 depending on which transmission and whether the parking brake is,or is not, on the back of the tranny. In the 1/54 book they cut it to four with a substitution. Stu

 

Interesting. I should have clarified a bit more, I was specifically looking at the bearing retainer part number for the crash box 4 speed (T-9). What I was trying to verify was that a transmission from a 3/4 ton (F-2) would bolt into the trucks up to 2 tons (F-6).

You bring up a good point, this bearing retainer lacks the provision for the brake drum on the back of the tranny. That limits the usability of this transmission to trucks with rear axle mounted parking brakes. Hmm.

 

I agree the one on your tranny looks to have exactly the height and bolt configuration of the rear bearing retainer of the F-2/3 T9 spur like in my truck. Minus the mounting arm for the brake band. Would think it'd might be easy enough to find a scrapped T9 to compare. Stu

 

At this point this has become an academic exercise. It looks like the transmission will bolt into the larger trucks. The lack of a brake band mounting arm looks like it limits the usefulness to 48-51 F-2 and F-3 trucks with rear axle parking brakes. Given the lack of interest from anyone with one of these trucks, I will drop the question.

If the rear bearing retainer from a T-9 could be used on the light duty three speed it would provide an elegant solution to all the folks wanting to get rid of their crashbox. I'll let someone with an extra of each of these transmissions figure that out.

 

I might take on that challenge down the road. But I also have a 3HD now sitting waiting for the next project waiting in the wings. Stu

 

I am interested. I've been watching this thread, although your combined knowledge is "Greek" to me. What does this band look like? I'll crawl under my F3 to see what my truck has.

 

The brake band is the emergency/park brake on the back of the tranny.

 

Which T-9? 1948/52: There are two different types, two different parts lists, four different bearing retainer part numbers!

Pics from the 1948/56 Ford Truck Parts Catalog (available on a C/D from hipoparts.com):

Left/Right Upper: Applications / Left Lower: Parts List #5 / Right Lower: Parts List #6.

Parts catalog parts list symbols: D = F2 / Y = F3 / TL = F4 / T = F5 / TH = F6 / W = F5 COE / WH = F6 COE