Air filter options
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Air filter options
I am thinking eliminating stock air cleaner on my '86 300 6 and putting something like this on to increase air flow. What are you using? Eliminate the stock "can" completely
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I would keep it stock. Goint to a different air cleaner will not likely increase air flow...it is not the limiting component in the fuel/air system.
Airflow is going to be controlled by your carb and is function of engine displacement, cam, valves, intake and other variables. You can likely not run a filter at all and not increase air flow.
In High performance applications, where the above variables have been modified, the air filter and house may become limiting and and upgrade is warranted. But I aslo would not sacrifice drivability and/or starting ease (especially when its cold) for something that "looks" like it would increase performance.
Airflow is going to be controlled by your carb and is function of engine displacement, cam, valves, intake and other variables. You can likely not run a filter at all and not increase air flow.
In High performance applications, where the above variables have been modified, the air filter and house may become limiting and and upgrade is warranted. But I aslo would not sacrifice drivability and/or starting ease (especially when its cold) for something that "looks" like it would increase performance.
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I plan on using a dual snorkel air cleaner from a 5.0 mustang on my 393 stoker that I'm building if that tells you anything. I'm going to duct the snorkels to a cold air source and hook up the heat stoves for faster warm up in the winter.
My problem with filters like that and any open filter is that it's sitting right over the hot engine. Cold air is more dense and can make more power.
My problem with filters like that and any open filter is that it's sitting right over the hot engine. Cold air is more dense and can make more power.
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I plan on using a dual snorkel air cleaner from a 5.0 mustang on my 393 stoker that I'm building if that tells you anything. I'm going to duct the snorkels to a cold air source and hook up the heat stoves for faster warm up in the winter.
My problem with filters like that and any open filter is that it's sitting right over the hot engine. Cold air is more dense and can make more power.
My problem with filters like that and any open filter is that it's sitting right over the hot engine. Cold air is more dense and can make more power.
My plan, when I get to it, is to block the hot-air opening on the driver's side snorkel and run two temp sensors to control the flappers individually. That way the one on the driver's side will stay closed in cold weather and yet will open fully in hot weather. And, there will be just a little bit less hot air to taint the cold air on that snorkel.
Hijack over.
Forgot to say you should read this thread: Stock Air Cleaner The reasons discussed there are still very valid. No need to rehash.
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I guess I could try and add the 2nd sensor if it doesn't work as expected. But, as easily as the air cleaner comes off it wouldn't matter when I put the sensor on. So, I might as well try one and go to two if needed.
Good idea!
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The way the illustration in my manual looks, if you had the drivers side snorkel warm air inlet capped, and the vacuum motor was operating off of the temp. sensor, then when cold, you would get little or no air from that snorkel, warm or cold.
With only drawing air through the passenger side snorkel, it should act like a single snorkel until warmed up then switch to dual cold air inlet.
Am I visualizing this right?
With only drawing air through the passenger side snorkel, it should act like a single snorkel until warmed up then switch to dual cold air inlet.
Am I visualizing this right?
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The way the illustration in my manual looks, if you had the drivers side snorkel warm air inlet capped, and the vacuum motor was operating off of the temp. sensor, then when cold, you would get little or no air from that snorkel, warm or cold.
With only drawing air through the passenger side snorkel, it should act like a single snorkel until warmed up then switch to dual cold air inlet.
Am I visualizing this right?
With only drawing air through the passenger side snorkel, it should act like a single snorkel until warmed up then switch to dual cold air inlet.
Am I visualizing this right?
My concern, and it is probably a minor one, is in the transition phase between full hot and cold. Since there is only one sensor, and since it is in the air stream from the passenger's side snorkel, it will only be controlling the temp at the outlet of that snorkel. None of the air from the other snorkel can get to the sensor. But, at the same opening there will be full cold air coming in from the driver's since since you either have no air or cold air.
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Anyway, it has two sensors just behind the snorkel, which is on the driver's side, and one in the lid inside the land for the filter. So, if that one were used it could be positioned to the rear where it would be roughly the same distance from both snorkels and it would basically be sensing the air going into the carb - regardless of from whence it came.
Good idea!
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I think that one of the devices in the snorkel is the vacuum motor that opens and closes the flapper and the other is called a Cold Weather Modulator (CWM). My manual says that it keeps the flapper from trying to close during periods of low vacuum, like acceleration, by acting as a vacuum trap. Once it senses a high enough temp. it allows vacuum to vent.
My air cleaner doesn't have the CWM. Also the vacuum motor is defective and I'm trying to find out where to get another. I'd rather buy a new one than trust a 30- year old one from the JY, but I may not have a choice.
My air cleaner doesn't have the CWM. Also the vacuum motor is defective and I'm trying to find out where to get another. I'd rather buy a new one than trust a 30- year old one from the JY, but I may not have a choice.
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Bi-Metalic valve. That's what controls the air cleaner diverter valve aka "the flapper valve". When cold it allows vacuum flow to suck the diverter valve closed. Once warm it cuts off flow. It's a little silver disk inside the air cleaner housing.
It's also called a "Sensor Assy. (Carburetor air cleaner temperature control)" in the parts manual...
@Gary, some are located in the bottom housing, some in the top, etc. Depends on the engine.
It's also called a "Sensor Assy. (Carburetor air cleaner temperature control)" in the parts manual...
@Gary, some are located in the bottom housing, some in the top, etc. Depends on the engine.