Please help me with my heater
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Please help me with my heater
1998 F150 4.6L Manual Transmission. It's my winter beater truck to be used while my EX is parked. Damn cold here right now and I'm freezing to death and could really use some help figuring out what's causing my problem?
Symptoms
Intermittent heat.
Mostly luke warm with sporadic bouts of actual heat.
Both inlet and outlet to the heater core hoses are hot.
Truck has never even thought about running hot - engine wise.
Have to run the truck 15-20 miles before the upper radiator hose will get hot.
You can idle the truck for an hour and that hose never gets hot.
If you squeeze that hose you hear a small thumping sound.
What I've done to try to fix it so far.
1. Put a thermostat in it - I think it was a motorcraft thermostat but a friend picked it up for me and I honestly never saw it in the box so I am not 100% sure.
2. Blew air both ways through the heater core, got some gunk out but not a lot. Good flow both directions.
3. Reversed the heater core hoses after it was flushed, and it had heat for a short time then stopped heating again.
4. Put a new water pump on it.
5. Ran it with coolant cap loose to burp air (now 4th time coolant has been drained and replaced so I figured air in the lines was a good bet) and it was the one time the truck had screaming hot heat, so hot I had to shut the fan down. Stopped and tightened it up after about 10 miles and heat immediately went luke warm.
6. Took the bottom of the dash apart and checked the blend door, it moves freely and the motor is fine. Removed the motor and turn the blend door manually, no change in heat. Still luke warm just like it is when you use the temperature control to move the blend door, so I don't think the door is the issue.
So #5 stands out but I don't know enough about heating systems to understand what my problem is?
Symptoms
Intermittent heat.
Mostly luke warm with sporadic bouts of actual heat.
Both inlet and outlet to the heater core hoses are hot.
Truck has never even thought about running hot - engine wise.
Have to run the truck 15-20 miles before the upper radiator hose will get hot.
You can idle the truck for an hour and that hose never gets hot.
If you squeeze that hose you hear a small thumping sound.
What I've done to try to fix it so far.
1. Put a thermostat in it - I think it was a motorcraft thermostat but a friend picked it up for me and I honestly never saw it in the box so I am not 100% sure.
2. Blew air both ways through the heater core, got some gunk out but not a lot. Good flow both directions.
3. Reversed the heater core hoses after it was flushed, and it had heat for a short time then stopped heating again.
4. Put a new water pump on it.
5. Ran it with coolant cap loose to burp air (now 4th time coolant has been drained and replaced so I figured air in the lines was a good bet) and it was the one time the truck had screaming hot heat, so hot I had to shut the fan down. Stopped and tightened it up after about 10 miles and heat immediately went luke warm.
6. Took the bottom of the dash apart and checked the blend door, it moves freely and the motor is fine. Removed the motor and turn the blend door manually, no change in heat. Still luke warm just like it is when you use the temperature control to move the blend door, so I don't think the door is the issue.
So #5 stands out but I don't know enough about heating systems to understand what my problem is?
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Are you sure your blend door is not broken ? The nub on the bottom of the box will turn , not fall out , with actuator removed even if the door is broken . I have temporarily " fixed " a few with a drill bit ( small hole ) and a piece of wire with a hook on the end to pull the door closed to get heat .
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Are you sure your blend door is not broken ? The nub on the bottom of the box will turn , not fall out , with actuator removed even if the door is broken . I have temporarily " fixed " a few with a drill bit ( small hole ) and a piece of wire with a hook on the end to pull the door closed to get heat .
I don't have a scanner that will read temperatures, well not for this truck anyway. Nor an IR gun but I can get a gun tomorrow and check. Where do I test it at? I know the gauge gets only to about 1/3 of the way, but I realize that's more of an idiot light than a gauge.
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Pondering that one....for now it's parked until I either do it myself or pay to have it done. Way too cold to even think about driving something with no heat. If I do it myself I am for sure going to wait until it warms up a bit.
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Going to do it myself. If I can do 20 extracted manifold studs I can handle a heater core. I have watched the video and just looks like the key is patience and organization, both of those I have so I'm not paying anyone else to work on my trucks if I am humanly capable of doing it mysefl. I know it's big job for a a "non tech" person but I will get it done. For now I flushed the crap out of the core today and got heat going to get me through hopefully the next week. Opened it up a good deal, the carnage that came out was impressive.
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Good ! Do it yourself ! You have the mechanical aptitude to preform this task . I Love to see people preform their own work . I work on vehicles for a living , But I understand the $ aspect . One note , I see some that say you have to discharge the AC , NOT TRUE ! A few tricks , and an easy job . 1/4 inch tools and swivels are a must . Best of Luck !
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Going to do it myself. If I can do 20 extracted manifold studs I can handle a heater core. I have watched the video and just looks like the key is patience and organization, both of those I have so I'm not paying anyone else to work on my trucks if I am humanly capable of doing it mysefl. I know it's big job for a a "non tech" person but I will get it done. For now I flushed the crap out of the core today and got heat going to get me through hopefully the next week. Opened it up a good deal, the carnage that came out was impressive.