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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 07:06 PM
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I've got a quick question for you guys.

A customer came into the NAPA store that I work at the other day, and tried to order a fuel pump for his F150. He swears up and down that the title says it is a 79 truck, but the body is definitely a bullnose. In the past he had issues ordering parts because of the differences in the trucks over the generation change. I know that it is not a 79, so I always look up parts for an 80 and not a 79 and everything is peachy.

So what I'm wondering, is if a early 80 bullnose could have been titled as a 79?

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It's really just for my sake. Curiosity really.

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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 07:59 PM
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With as much of a change that occurred I HIGHLY doubt it. Ask to see the paperwork.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 08:43 PM
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I imagine it could have been built in 1979 but still a 1980 model, they start assembling the next year's vehicles in September or thereabouts. You'd really want to look at the Certification Label on the driver's side door jamb, the Manufacturing Date will be in the top-left corner, the Model Year code is encoded in the VIN (I forget which character, though).
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 08:47 PM
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Yep. Dad's is an 81 but was built in Sept of 80. Rusty is an 81 and was built in Oct of 80.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 09:17 PM
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My truck is an 86 but made September of 85. Also we have a 64 Galaxie that was made in October of 63.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 09:19 PM
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My truck is an 86 but made September of 85. Also we have a 64 Galaxie that was made in October of 63.
does the title say your truck is a 85 or an 86?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 09:22 PM
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does the title say your truck is a 85 or an 86?
The title says 1986. It was manufactured 9/27/1985 according to the door sticker at the Oakville, Ontario plant. I also have the first edition original 1986 F series owners manual with the truck, too. I was surprised to find that in the glove box.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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Both of my trucks are titled as 81's. Back in the 50's & 60's the next year of vehicles was introduced in September.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jgavac
So what I'm wondering, is if a early 80 bullnose could have been titled as a 79?
If it's really a 1980 (no kind of weird body/frame swap) and is really titled as a 1979, then it pretty much has to be in error. The most likely scenario I can think of is that it was sold very early in the production run, and whoever typed up the original title just typed in '1979' like they'd been doing all year, instead of '1980' (sort of like the first check or two you write in a new year). There was probably no computer verification of the VIN back then, so the error could easily have gone undetected and uncorrected.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 09:28 PM
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I have a 86 f150 that was built in late 85, and I use to have a 80 f250 that was built in late 79, but it was definitely a 80, no question about it, because it was a bullnose.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 05:25 PM
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Mine was built in November of 1979, has many bits and pieces that must have been early as most '80s had them altered like newer models, but my title clearly says 1980.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 05:50 PM
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Like was said in one of the previous posts, the title is just a document generated by the state to keep track of the vehicle and it's ownership. It really has nothing to do with what model the truck is. They also have GVWR numbers that can be put on the title that having everything to do with fees, and nothing to do with the actual GVWR of the vehicle itself.

The VIN on the truck has the last word unless the cab has been swapped.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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1980 was last year of the older 10 digit VIN system. The newer 17 digit VIN has a model year designation built in, but that didn't start till 81, at least on trucks.

Fun fact, typing my 80 F150 VIN into most VIN decoders will result in it being identified as a 1970 F150, and the F150 did not come into existance until 1975.........

I suspect the title is wrong, and has been since since it was first issued, due to a typo by the original clerk.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 09:51 PM
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The title says 1986. It was manufactured 9/27/1985 according to the door sticker at the Oakville, Ontario plant. I also have the first edition original 1986 F series owners manual with the truck, too. I was surprised to find that in the glove box.
Yours was made at the same plant as mine several months after mine. Mine was a February truck from that plant. Don't know what day specifically though, just says 2/85.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 09:54 PM
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Yours was made at the same plant as mine several months after mine. Mine was a February truck from that plant. Don't know what day specifically though, just says 2/85.
If you look at the clear overlay just above the door sticker it self where the date is, very faintly there is the specific date.
 
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