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Old 10-05-2013, 08:38 AM
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Engine swap advice

I am about to pull the trigger and buy a 1994 351 Windsor out of a F250 to put in my 54. I am currently running a tired 1974 351 Windsor with a C6. I think keeping the EFI is to much work. I am wondering if I can just swap the intake, carb, timing gear cover and distributer from my 1974 351W. Are there any problems should consider before buying the motor. I have also located some early 70's 351 Windsor's but I like the idea of a roller block and a one piece main. I am looking for the cheapest and easiest way to have this running next spring. All feedback is appreciated.
 
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Not positive but I don't think there is a provision for a mechanical fuel pump on those, but maybe it can be added? Or run an electric?
 
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All the stuff will switch over and like said your only issue might be fuel supply. Hang on to you EFI stuff because you can get after market computers to run it and it might be in your cards at a later time.
 
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All the stuff will switch over and like said your only issue might be fuel supply. Hang on to you EFI stuff because you can get after market computers to run it and it might be in your cards at a later time.
I would like to keep the EFI. I don't think it is in the cards with a C6 and a 9inch rearend. If someone has done this I would love to hear how.
 
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Why should it mater about having a C6 and 9"? I am only talking about the EFI, which is part of the engine management system, hence the stand alone computer. I am not talking about an electronic controlled trans. Several people have done it without issues.

I am just saying you may want to run it later.
 
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:23 AM
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[QUOTE=truckeemtnfords;13614976]Why should it mater about having a C6 and 9"? I am only talking about the EFI, which is part of the engine management system, hence the stand alone computer. I am not talking about an electronic controlled trans. Several people have done it without issues.

I am just saying you may want to run it later.[/QUOT
I was under the impression the motor, tranny and rear end were all tied together. If I knew how to get the EFI to work I would definitely go that route.
 
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The fuel pump is not going to cause any issues. When I was younger I swaped an 88 mustang from EFI to carb because I didnt have the $$ to change it to mass air and do the mods I wanted to. you can easily buy or reuse lower intake and carb.

Engine will bolt up to your tranny and your rear end has nothing to do with it.

You can easily by a electic 12V fuel pump BUT IT MUST BE MADE TO RUN A CARB if you buy a fuel injected pump it will blow the jet on your carb due to the higher pressure.

I have the 302 out of my mustang (RIP first love, she didnt make it through the run in with the wall hahaha)
 
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Well they kind of are "tied" together but not in an electrical means. There are books and articles on making the EFI work. I guess it just depends on how soon you want it running and how much time and money you want to throw at it.

Brettzky, What Scott was saying is some newer blocks do not have a provision for a mechanical fuel pump. Yea you can run an electric pump but not everybody wants an electric pump.
 
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Originally Posted by truckeemtnfords
Well they kind of are "tied" together but not in an electrical means. There are books and articles on making the EFI work. I guess it just depends on how soon you want it running and how much time and money you want to throw at it.

Brettzky, What Scott was saying is some newer blocks do not have a provision for a mechanical fuel pump. Yea you can run an electric pump but not everybody wants an electric pump.
I'm just planning on taking what I need of my 74 351. I going with a mechanical fuel pump. I hope the 74 timing cover will work with the dual timing chain.
 
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It should but most require that you remove the thin oil slinger from the front of the crank gear. It can wear down to nothing and destroy bearings, ask me how I know.
 
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It should but most require that you remove the thin oil slinger from the front of the crank gear. It can wear down to nothing and destroy bearings, ask me how I know.
Please explain.
 
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Factory there is a small thin disc that goes on towards the front of the crank in front of the lower timing gear, Who know what it does for sure (I have heard different reasons through the years). Anyway most double roller timing chain manufactures say to remove it because with the wider double row gear it can force the sheet metal disc into the timing cover. I found what was left of one in the bottom of the motor I rebuilt for the truck. The parts of it I did not find obviously found my cam bearings because they were toast.
 
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