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Old 09-14-2013, 01:39 PM
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Saginaw P/S pump questions.

I'm in the process of restoring my '86 F250, and it has a 6 inch lift on it, and I plan on putting some form of meaty tires on her.

I'm doing as much research I can to make sure that I don't mess up here. I've always heard about saginaw this and saginaw that. Turns out this site provides some good info...

Saginaw Steering Swap - WT4Wheeling Tech

I am rebuilding a 460, I may bore and stroke it while i'm at it, haven't made up my mind yet, but my questions are:

1. Every single site i've seen that mentions anything about these Saginaw pumps, they all seem to be meant for 5.0/5.8 motors. Will this pump work on a 460? Or is there a different pump I should use?

2. With the more powerful motor, is that going to affect pressure?

3. Will the Saginaw pump work with a stock steering box, or do I need a different box?

Thanks for the help guys!
 
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I'm not sure what your asking - It's the same pump for 5.8 or 7.5L.
 
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I'm not sure what your asking - It's the same pump for 5.8 or 7.5L.
Oh so a saginaw pump will work on all the V8's?
 
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You need the bracketry for a 460.
Look for a V-belt E350 van with the 460 engine.
They were pretty common.

The boss that bolts to the head is ~3/4" taller for the Saginaw.

They work fine with the stock steering box.
I used the van pressure steering line and bent it to fit.

The return hose needs to loop behind the pump because of the angle the return nipple is soldered to the reservoir
Be sure to wrap it to protect from chafing.

If you need a pic or something let me know.
 
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X2, anyone who wants to do this, just find an E-series van with the same engine you have, and swap everything over.


ALL E-series vans used Saginaw pumps for all engines and years.
 
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
You need the bracketry for a 460.
Look for a V-belt E350 van with the 460 engine.
They were pretty common.

The boss that bolts to the head is ~3/4" taller for the Saginaw.
They work fine with the stock steering box.

I used the van steering line and bent it to fit.
The return hose needs to loop behind the pump because of the angle.
Be sure to wrap it to protect from chafing.

If you need a pic or something let me know.
Yea, if you have a picture that would be a massive help. I really appreciate it.
 
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This is the mount to the head.




Pumps, side by side.







The Saginaw bracket, any why it needs the taller boss. (this is without A/C)










The 71202 line I used after bending it to fit the truck frame.
You need to do some clocking.







The different fittings of C2 and Saginaw pumps.
This is why you can't use the trucks C2 pressure line.







Installed.
The loop on the return and the anti chafe on the hose behind the bracket.














Hope this helps.
 
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Oh, you'll definitely need a crow's foot and a long extension to screw the pressure line into the box.
 
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
This is the mount to the head.




Pumps, side by side.







The Saginaw bracket, any why it needs the taller boss. (this is without A/C)










The 71202 line I used after bending it to fit the truck frame.
You need to do some clocking.







The different fittings of C2 and Saginaw pumps.
This is why you can't use the trucks C2 pressure line.







Installed.
The loop on the return and the anti chafe on the hose behind the bracket.














Hope this helps.
I greatly appreciate it. Thank you very much for posting those. It really helps me see what i'll have to do.
 
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
Oh, you'll definitely need a crow's foot and a long extension to screw the pressure line into the box.
Got that covered no problem. I have enough tools to feed a small shop lol. Thanks again for the pictures and advice. They're a huge help.
 
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If you have A/C in your truck the bracket will be a little different.
There will be a 'shelf' on top to mount the compressor.
 
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nice write up
 
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