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Nissan Announces 5.0L V8 Cummins for next Titan, Will Ford follow suite?

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Nissan Announces Next Titan Will Have a Cummins - PickupTrucks.com News

So what do ya think guys? Is a diesel F-150 in our foreseeable future? Granted that its set in stone now that Ram is going to offer their 3.0L Diesel and Nissan their 5.0L.
 
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My EB does me just fine but if Ford comes up with a diesel that will run and pull like the EB and get me 30mpg and give me a manual trans. option then my current truck will be gone. Best, CB
 
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Ford already has their 1/2 ton torque motor, I still can't see them releasing a 1/2 ton diesel.
 
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If they do offer a diesel, it will most likely be the 3.2L Powerstroke from the Transit van. That engine is already certified for use/emissions compliant, plus it uses the same transmission as the current F150. It would be easy to incorporate into the F150 line.

It won't have the acceleration performance of the Ecoboost or The Titan's 5.0L Cummins, but it would likely offer comparable fuel economy and towing to the Ram's 3.0L diesel, allowing Ford to make some of those ever popular Best-in-Class claims.
 
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The Cummins/Nissan ventue might be a game changer! I heard 550 Ft/lbs torque with over 300 Horse power!
 
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Ford has already said no to the F150 diesel. And really I don't think they need it. But I do wish and I already know they won't do it. But I wish they would give us a true manual trans. option for all of the engine choices. However I know talk is cheap and Nissan can claim what they want right now. But if they do offer a diesel with the power and torque as rumored then I think Ford would either reconsider an all new diesel line for both the 150 and superduty trucks or rework and add more power and torque to the EB. So we will have to just wait and see, wait and see
 
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Unless Nissan is offering a 3/4 ton Titan what is that engine really going to do with it? Yes they likely will be able to lay claim to the highest tow rating with the rest of the truck backs up the engine, but how safely can a 1/2 ton really tow 11,000 plus pounds.

I think Dodge has it right with there smaller eco diesel, and maybe Ford if they use the 3.2 in a F150.
 
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^ good point!
 
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Originally Posted by Ziegelsteinfaust
Unless Nissan is offering a 3/4 ton Titan what is that engine really going to do with it? Yes they likely will be able to lay claim to the highest tow rating with the rest of the truck backs up the engine, but how safely can a 1/2 ton really tow 11,000 plus pounds.

I think Dodge has it right with there smaller eco diesel, and maybe Ford if they use the 3.2 in a F150.
Keep in mind Nissan has 3/4 ton and 1 ton (single-rear-wheel only) vans based on the Titan's chassis. It wouldn't take much for them to either make an HD Titan or to use this engine in those vans.

I wouldn't be suprised if that's why they chose to go with this engine. They can use it in their half ton pickups, 3/4 ton pickups, 1 ton SRW pickups, half ton vans, 3/4 ton vans, and 1 ton SRW vans. It saves them from having to produce two different diesels like the other manufacturers would. Since they don't make any DRW trucks, they could probably get away with it.
 
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i think ford has committed to the eco boost at this point its "all in" so to speak.

personally, if i had to pick between the two i'd take the gasser every time. less maint,less upkeep, less buy in...ect ect
 
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Hmm, if Nissan is planning on entering the 3/4 & 1 ton pick up segment, 550 ft lb is a little low....compared to the other 3
 
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maybe a half assed attempt much like the early toyota tundra or the dodge dakota. they never really fit into one segment which was the issue..too big to be a compact and too small to be a full size with power numbers stuck in the middle too.
 
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Considering that the Titan has only had limited engine choices since it's debut, this has to be big news for Nissan loyalists.

I'm seeing their vans all over the place and as previously mentioned, the platform is there now to build from.

Any word of Toyota developing a diesel? If Ford doesn't answer back on this one, then they will likely be the last man standing without a half ton diesel.
 
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Shocks me that Nissan is using a Cummins diesel, since they are one of the largest diesel makers in Japan. Toyota too, and Mazda. I've owned several Toyota diesels, one Mazda, and Nissan diesel 8 passenger vans there. Diesel was about $.40 a gallon less than gasoline this summer. I loved me diesels in Japan, (their polution standards are VERY strict) but with all this mess we have in America, and price of fuel, nope, not for me here.

By the way, Ford used to own 35% of Mazda, Ranger trucks were really Mazdas. Chrysler (I think?) owned 35% of Mitsubishi, GM 35% of Isuzu, etc. Anyway, there was, and maybe still is, this relationship between USA makers and some of the Japanese makers. It'd be easy for any American maker to get great diesels in their half ton trucks, but like I said, with all this EPA mess, some kind of extra mess you have to add to diesels here, and fuel costing so much more, just doesn't make economic sense for me to own diesel half ton.
 
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By the way, Ford used to own 35% of Mazda, Ranger trucks were really Mazdas.
Point of order, it was the other way around. Rangers were Fords, the Mazda B-series were rebadged Rangers. Much like the Navajo was a rebadged Explorer. The Ford Courier trucks from the late 70s were Mazdas, but those predated the Ranger.
 


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