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Old 07-18-2013, 06:05 AM
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Could the Reg cab F-150 become extinct?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...49478099,d.cGE

The article uses a Tundra as the example but the regulations will apply to all car makers.

Wondering of this could have any effect on the much rumored F-150 tremor.
 
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Old 07-18-2013, 07:03 AM
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Why did they decided to use the vehicle "footprint" as a basis for fuel economy improvement requirements? There are many other parameters that could have been used.

I'll have to look through that EPA document sometime...

Thanks for the link Tim
 
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Why did they decided to use the vehicle "footprint" as a basis for fuel economy improvement requirements? There are many other parameters that could have been used.
Probably because this mess is less about saving the planet and more about a political power grab... since politics are involved, there's no requirement to invoke common sense.

I'll save the soapbox for another time!
 
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Probably because this mess is less about saving the planet and more about a political power grab... since politics are involved, there's no requirement to invoke common sense.
Agreed

It would be interested to see the environmental impact assessment of using more materials/energy to build a supercrew long bed VS a reg cab short bed

Since the footprint calculation is based on wheelbase, I can see the reg-cab short bed's disappearing, however the reg cab long bed shares a 145" wheelbase with the Scab and Screw short box configurations.
 
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I wanted some more info on this so I started digging through the EPA Federal Register, Link: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012...2012-21972.pdf

I then calculated out the footrpint in sqft for the 126" and 145" WBs Using a 67" track width (from ford specs page) I calculated out the 126" WB to have a 58.6 sqft "footprint" and the 145" WB to have a 67.2 sqft footprint.

Entering this information into the chart provided on page 408 of the aforementioned EPA document, we get this:



It looks like these regulations will be in effect for 2017. It will be interesting to see if the reg cab short bed makes the cut.
 
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While I do like reg cab trucks, I've got no use for anything less than an SuperCab at the minimum. That said I rarely see modern reg cabs out here, and when I do it's never the short box and always a long bed.

While I would love to see the reg/cab short box continue, I don't see why Ford would make a business case for it. I don't remember a huge spred in pricing going from the reg/cab config to Super Cab. What's odd thoug is that the price difference between Super Cab and Super Crew is quite significant. That was the main reason I skipped on the full Crew cab.
 
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I hope not. Reg cab/long bed is just right for me. There is plenty of room in the cab (more then reg cab SD) to hold me, a rider and hunting gear and guns. The long box gives me the room to have a good sized tool box and still 6+ feet for cargo or even a little more with the tailgate down. Plus since you can max out the payload/tow, it's the perfect. I wish a diesel powerplant would be dropped into the reg cab trucks but it looks like I have to get an EB in the next truck. Chris
 
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Originally Posted by Pool Runner
While I do like reg cab trucks, I've got no use for anything less than an SuperCab at the minimum. That said I rarely see modern reg cabs out here, and when I do it's never the short box and always a long bed.

While I would love to see the reg/cab short box continue, I don't see why Ford would make a business case for it. I don't remember a huge spred in pricing going from the reg/cab config to Super Cab. What's odd thoug is that the price difference between Super Cab and Super Crew is quite significant. That was the main reason I skipped on the full Crew cab.
I did the same. The Screw in XLT trim was about $3300 more than my Scab. With both girls grown and gone, the Scab is a great fit for the three of us. My wife, Ladybug, (my yorki-poo) and me. The dog rides on the console.
 
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I don't think the reg cab long bed's are in jeopardy, as they share the same WB as the Screw and Scab. I can see them lengthening the WB and adding more storage behind the seat (as they already have started doing)
 
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this just means i better buy my reg cab short bed within the next year. i want a tremor so bad i can taste it!
 
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