20 inch replacement tires
#16
07-16-2013, 10:11 AM
I just replaced the Michelins with Nitto Terra Grappler 295/60/20 Monday morning. The speedometer reads within 1 mph of GPS and the odometer is right around the 3.5% less than actual distance traveled which is pretty much what I saw with the factory Michelins when they were new.
I haven't driven much more than 100 miles with them yet, but I'm guessing I lost about 0.5-0.75 mpg with this larger, heavier tire than I was seeing with the worn out Michelins. I don't expect to get 50,000 miles out of the Terra Grappler, but the key is to rotate them every 5,000 miles. The Michelins saw 7-8,000 miles a few times and I know that reduced their life somewhat. I ended up with 48,000 on them and could have gone another 5,000 or so but have some long trips coming up with my 15,000 lb fifth wheel and didn't want to take the chance.
I haven't driven much more than 100 miles with them yet, but I'm guessing I lost about 0.5-0.75 mpg with this larger, heavier tire than I was seeing with the worn out Michelins. I don't expect to get 50,000 miles out of the Terra Grappler, but the key is to rotate them every 5,000 miles. The Michelins saw 7-8,000 miles a few times and I know that reduced their life somewhat. I ended up with 48,000 on them and could have gone another 5,000 or so but have some long trips coming up with my 15,000 lb fifth wheel and didn't want to take the chance.
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07-16-2013, 01:04 PM
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I just wanted to update after my first trip with the 295 Terra Grapplers. We towed the toyhauler 600 miles round trip over the weekend and saw virtually no difference in fuel mileage or handling versus the old worn out Michelins. The larger, more aggressive tire definitely kills the in town fuel mileage. I lost somewhere around 1.5 mpg around town and I'm still thinking an overall average of somewhere around 0.75 mpg. The real test is going to be how many miles I can squeeze out of these things. Based on past experience with Terra Grapplers, I don't expect to come close to the 50,000 mark, but time will tell.
Now that sucks!
#18
07-16-2013, 03:52 PM
I have 17in wheels but i did have the nitto terra grapplers 285 70 17 i just made it 40k on them barely, i probably will not run the nittos again. i did stop in the tire shop near me a few weeks ago and they said they have been selling the Cooper AT3 tire so fast that they have been having trouble keeping em in, just food for thought for you.
#19
07-16-2013, 07:03 PM
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Their website shows 50,000 mile warranty on the LT tire sizes in the Open Country AT tires.
And no tread wear warranty on the Open Country HT tires.
#20
07-16-2013, 09:23 PM
If you don't take your truck through mud, I couldn't recommend the Michelin M/S2 high enough (more road oriented tread pattern than your current tires). I have 18" wheels, but they came with a 70,000 mile tread wear warranty, they are quiet, I get excellent milage and their handling in the rain/dry is good too.
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07-17-2013, 01:16 PM
#22
09-01-2014, 07:46 PM
Time to resurrect this thread. I am going to be getting new tires on my 2012 F350 SRW. 4x4. I use my truck to tow a heavy 5th wheel trailer. I do very little off-road driving but living in Denver we do get a bit of snow. I was looking at Terra Grapples, but it seems according to reviews they don't last very long. So what are some other suggestions that based on the experience of forum members would do well for me? .
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09-01-2014, 08:06 PM
Time to resurrect this thread. I am going to be getting new tires on my 2012 F350 SRW. 4x4. I use my truck to tow a heavy 5th wheel trailer. I do very little off-road driving but living in Denver we do get a bit of snow. I was looking at Terra Grapples, but it seems according to reviews they don't last very long. So what are some other suggestions that based on the experience of forum members would do well for me? .
My initial fuel economy loss leveled off somewhat. On average I get about 0.5 mpg less with the Grapplers than the OEM Michelins. The bad thing now is initially they did not pick up rocks, but now with some decent wear on them, they grab small rocks and love to release them at 30+ mph which is the perfect speed for them to come up under the mudflaps and ding the sides of the truck. I gave up on preventing that from happening like 3.5 years ago. I just accepted the fact that this truck was not meant to have perfect paint on the lower panels!
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09-01-2014, 08:11 PM
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I have about 15k on a set of 20" Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2 and have been very happy with them. Much better in the dirt /mud than the OE michelins, just as quiet if not quieter than the michelins and have performed well under heavy loads. Sorry, no snow performance report. Lots of thread remaining....still look new.
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#26
09-02-2014, 06:30 AM
I have a little over 60k on the cooper at/3 tires. They're about shot and I'm talking about almost exclusively highway miles with trailers. They have been really good all terrain performing tires.
I've had the duelers, michelins, toyo, wrangler silent armor and would stick with the coopers.
I've had the duelers, michelins, toyo, wrangler silent armor and would stick with the coopers.
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09-03-2014, 01:21 PM
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I replaced the Michellin OM 20's with Toyo A/T 2's about 17,000 kms ago.
Looks and drives great an no issues. I have dedicated snows already since the truck was new. Tires are a personal choice. Toyo's are supposed to get very good mileage and there are 3 types of A/T 2's to choose from. Good luck whatever your choice is. Check them out if you can.
Looks and drives great an no issues. I have dedicated snows already since the truck was new. Tires are a personal choice. Toyo's are supposed to get very good mileage and there are 3 types of A/T 2's to choose from. Good luck whatever your choice is. Check them out if you can.
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09-06-2014, 05:46 AM
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#29
09-06-2014, 09:29 AM
I was driving in the rain yesterday and noticed how easy the stock michelins break traction. With winter around the corner, I will probably change them out. Loved the Nitto Trails on my last two trucks, but they are aggressive, but lasted. I had BFG Trail Rated TA/KO's at one time and thought they were good. Time to research I suppose.
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09-06-2014, 05:09 PM
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My second set of Michelin AT/2s now have a little more than 36k on them and theres no way in hell these are going to go 90 like my first set. Tread is way better than 1/2 gone. My guess is Michelin changed the compound but I don't know that for sure. My 5.4 still couldn't spin the tires on wet pavement so I know it's not a change in my driving habits. I'm thinking 50-55k on these.