Actually, having run a shop for a number of years, I did find that the EGR system does a heck of a good job of killing part throttle detonation (Olds 307 engines would rattle like a diesel if the EGR wasn't working). The original EGR systems were a real POS, and on most carbureted engines blocking it really helped. Interesting site, however, they do not seem to have anything for the 460.

 

The EGR does a needed job on non performance motors but the issues at cold start can be dealt with in a tune modification. That's why they aren't needed as much on a performance motor. It's not at all that it is a bad thing to have on, it can be compensated for in the tune (and it's input to the PCM used).

I removed it because I didn't want it to be a factor on my motor, I wanted things cleaner in the engine compartment, and by using the PCM to read the wideband, I avoided needing an external data logger (just another thing to wire and install) to get AFR in my log. Just me I guess.

Did you make any progress on the AFR into the datalog?

 

I found that it may be able to directly go into BE2012. I may have to directly ask Clint Garrity. My engine will not a "performance" motor, it is in an F-350 crew cab dual rear wheel truck. It will be primarily a torque engine. I am just working all the bugs out of the conversion before I stick a fresh engine in. It will be higher compression, 9.2-9.5:1 area with a mild cam. Right now at 55 mph, it's only turning 1500 rpm. Plenty of torque out of a 460 like that.

 

Let me know what you find out about BE, I am interested on how that's done

 

Ok, I will, I know when I first set it up I added the Innovate to the hardware list.

 

Ok, RIKIL, it does have the Innovate LM-1 in my hardware list. I was able to enable it, set the source to COM3 (where the Prolific cable installs as). From there I am still confused, it gives me up to 8 inputs I can configure. I guess the big question is will the LM-1 read the wideband sensor when it is hooked to the laptop and if so what kind of output does it give? I can configure my two analog outputs, but it looks like BE2012 is set up to use the computer input as a source.

I have tried numerous times to actually contact Innovate with zero response. Not the kind of response you would expect.

 

OK, if you have the innovate listed in the drop down and set it for com3, that sounds like progress.

Can you give me a screen shot of the 8 inputs?

 

Ok, RIKIL, see if this works. I opened the config tab for you.

 

Do you also have the innovate software open? Have you verified that is working properly first?

I think it would work based on the settings but I wonder if BE would have a problem if innovate is open at the same time.

I assume your super logger works in the same way?

 

I don't have either a SuperLogger or Moates, both of those seem to be defaults that were in BE2012 as it was sold to me. The SuperLogger panel does not have an enable block to check. Since I am using the Mongoose, the OBDII is enabled. I will try the Innovate with BE open and see what it does.

 

I found a couple of posts on eectuning.org I'd like to look at but when I go to the link, the page is blank and their site doesn't come up so I am not sure if that is temporary or permanent. I'll follow up.

I did find this from FAQ - All FAQs


Why is my Innovate not logging?
There are several causes for this. Make sure you have installed Binary Editor after Log Works. It is not recommend to even install log works unless you need to configure channels or other transfer functions.
If you are using a USB to serial converter make sure you are using the correct comport in BE. To figure this out plug the USB to serial converter in and then look in the windows control panel --> System --> Device manager to see what com port windows assigned the USB to serial converter. Make sure BE uses this same comport.

 

Ok, I can open LogWorks3 at the same time as BE. I am not seeing any Innovate input point in my Datalog setup in BE, I do show a base reading on LogWorks3 of around 15% O2, but meter is showing 20.9% O2 (sensor is in open air).

I don't know whether it is having LogWorks open or the sensor and battery to the meter, but I can't open the LM Programmer right now. I did update the firmware to V1.4.2 on it.

 

I am beginning to hate Micro$oft more every day. The damn cable was working fine until I tried using LM Programmer, then went back to try LogWorks. It told me no real time data so I shut off the LM-1 unplugged the Prolific cable and when I plugged it back, damned Micro$oft decided that their driver was the one I needed nd promptly crashed the cable.

 

Damn, that sucks.

I would try to open BE and have innovate closed. I don't think BE can listen to com3 if innovate is at the same time.

 

I'm actually going to put everything on my old laptop. It has XP media center edition on it.