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Old 06-25-2013, 07:56 PM
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Difference between F53 and F550

I have a year 2000 motorhome and I'm not sure if it is on a F53 or a F550 chassis.

My Vin indicates F550 but when I try to locate the correct rear brake rotor, the correct one seems to be listed under a F53. The one listed for F550 comes with a parking brake drum. F53 lists one without the parking brake drum in the rotor. My motorhome has the parking brake in the driveline.

Any ideas?

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Most of the time the trucks were the F550 and the motorhome chassis were the F53.

The exception being those truck cab based giant class C's.

That said, if you are using anything other than Ford information to identify the model from the VIN, then it could come up with F550 or F53, depending upon how the state where it was first registered, identified it. Many states do not have the full Ford model numbers in there database, so the next closest thing is chosen. Of course the devil is in the details!

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Thank you David for the fast reply. Do you know if there is any major difference or are they basically the same?

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There are a lot of MAJOR differences between the F-53 and F-550.

They are different vehicles. They share common parts like a V10 engine (calibrated differently), but if that qualified them to be similar, might as well compare the F-53 with Ford Club Wagon van, which also offered a V10 option in 2000.

It is impractical to list ALL the differences, but here is a rough sketch of dissimilarities between the F-53 and F-550 for model year 2000:

The GVWR ratings and wheelbases are all different. There is no common wheelbase between the F-53 and F-550. There is no common GVWR either.

However, there is some commonality in the rear GAWR, but for 2000, the front GAWRs' were different...except for one model of F-53 that had used a 7,000 lb Westport monobeam axle with 6,000 lb rated front springs. Otherwise, the F-550 had a 6,000 lb Front GAWR and the F-53 had a 7,000 lb front GAWR.

The frames are different. Entirely. From stem to stern. Web height, flange depth, section modulus, cross member shapes, channel profile, front track width, all different.

Taking one frame detail a step further, the section modulus on the F-53 is 9.46, regardless of wheelbase or GVWR, and on the F-550, the section modulus can be 10.1, 17.8, or 19.3, depending on the cab style, wheelbase, cab axle distance, GVWR, and options chosen.

The suspension is different. Entirely. Both front and rear. Number of leaves, length of leaves, width of leaves, spring rating of leaves, manner in which the leaves are hung on the frame... all different parts.

The shock absorbers are different. The F-53 has a larger piston diameter, and different compressed and extended length specs.

The shock towers are different, as are the brackets, as well as their angle (in the rear) and height (in the front).

The anti sway bars are different. The bar diameter is larger on the F-53, and has different endlinks.

The steering gear, linkage, and geometry are different.

Heck, even the WHEELS are different. They look exactly the same between the F-550 and F-53, and they each are 19.5" rims with 8 on 225mm bolt circle diameter (prior to 2005), but the F-53 wheel is wider than the F-550 by 3/4", enabling the motorhome to run 245 tires, whereas the F-550 wheels are only wide enough for 225 tires. There is, however, one model of F-53 that uses the same 6" wheels that the F-550 does. It is the smallest 15,500 GVWR model. All the other F-53 models use the 6.75" wheel.

The radiator, degas bottle, air cleaner snorkel, power steering plumbing, hydro boost plumbing... all different.

The transmission cooler is different. But the transmission is the same!

The fuel tank is different. 75 gallons on the F-53 versus 40 gallons on the F-550.

You already found out how the brakes are different. As well as the driveline.

I think you get the idea. I'd use "F-53" for replacement parts in every situation possible.
 
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:12 AM
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Thank you Y2KW57. I appreciate the time you took for that detailed explanation. I learned a lot. I had no idea there was such a big difference between the two chassis.

This will help me big time in the future..

I'm new to this forum and I'm glad I joined..

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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
There are a lot of MAJOR differences between the F-53 and F-550.

They are different vehicles. They share common parts like a V10 engine (calibrated differently), but if that qualified them to be similar, might as well compare the F-53 with Ford Club Wagon van, which also offered a V10 option in 2000.

It is impractical to list ALL the differences, but here is a rough sketch of dissimilarities between the F-53 and F-550 for model year 2000:

The GVWR ratings and wheelbases are all different. There is no common wheelbase between the F-53 and F-550. There is no common GVWR either.

However, there is some commonality in the rear GAWR, but for 2000, the front GAWRs' were different...except for one model of F-53 that had used a 7,000 lb Westport monobeam axle with 6,000 lb rated front springs. Otherwise, the F-550 had a 6,000 lb Front GAWR and the F-53 had a 7,000 lb front GAWR.

The frames are different. Entirely. From stem to stern. Web height, flange depth, section modulus, cross member shapes, channel profile, front track width, all different.

Taking one frame detail a step further, the section modulus on the F-53 is 9.46, regardless of wheelbase or GVWR, and on the F-550, the section modulus can be 10.1, 17.8, or 19.3, depending on the cab style, wheelbase, cab axle distance, GVWR, and options chosen.

The suspension is different. Entirely. Both front and rear. Number of leaves, length of leaves, width of leaves, spring rating of leaves, manner in which the leaves are hung on the frame... all different parts.

The shock absorbers are different. The F-53 has a larger piston diameter, and different compressed and extended length specs.

The shock towers are different, as are the brackets, as well as their angle (in the rear) and height (in the front).

The anti sway bars are different. The bar diameter is larger on the F-53, and has different endlinks.

The steering gear, linkage, and geometry are different.

Heck, even the WHEELS are different. They look exactly the same between the F-550 and F-53, and they each are 19.5" rims with 8 on 225mm bolt circle diameter (prior to 2005), but the F-53 wheel is wider than the F-550 by 3/4", enabling the motorhome to run 245 tires, whereas the F-550 wheels are only wide enough for 225 tires. There is, however, one model of F-53 that uses the same 6" wheels that the F-550 does. It is the smallest 15,500 GVWR model. All the other F-53 models use the 6.75" wheel.

The radiator, degas bottle, air cleaner snorkel, power steering plumbing, hydro boost plumbing... all different.

The transmission cooler is different. But the transmission is the same!

The fuel tank is different. 75 gallons on the F-53 versus 40 gallons on the F-550.

You already found out how the brakes are different. As well as the driveline.

I think you get the idea. I'd use "F-53" for replacement parts in every situation possible.


Nice Work Y2KW57, this is a very helpful post.
 
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Generally motor-home come in different shapes and sizes by many manufacturers. These vehicles are categorised as either a panel van that use the original body of the van and a coach built, using a purpose built habitation area mounted on a suitable chassis.

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Originally Posted by RELHUB
Nice Work Y2KW57, this is a very helpful post.
Thanks RELHUB. I've posted various versions of that chassis info, including much longer versions (if that is even imaginable), on various RV forums since 1998. Each year I remember less and less, so by posting it, at least it is searchable by those interested. Several times now I've wondered about something, and found a post that answered all of my questions. Turned out I wrote that post years earlier, and completely forgot it and all the info contained therein. So by putting it out there, it comes back in return.
 
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