Ok, that's what I'm looking for, so I think I'll either go gas or power stroke, the Windsor wasn't ever considered because its just too small for a big truck.

 

I don't understand this at all. You have no reason to own a dually, but you want to fork over the extra money for 2 extra tires every time you need tires, and you want to spend all the extra money in fuel, and you'd even consider a diesel to boot? This whole thing is foolish. An extended cab f150 with an I6 would be more than plenty for what you want to do. I can't even justify giving you any advice, with the exception of don't just blow money on things you don't need.

 

You don't he to get it. If you like cars you understand. If I plan on keeping it I'll fork over an extra grand every few years for disposable crap like tires. If I'm not buying a dually I'll buy a MUCH newer truck, which will cost atleast twice as much, will DEPRICIATE like a mo$&@ and will LOSE me a thousand EVERY year, the money is getting spent either way, I prefer a truck I love to see, not one that everyone has, so your advice isnt wanted by me if you don't understand now. It's not about practicality, nothing you buy because you like it is practical, it's because you like it.

 

Yea he's not spending your money, let him get what he wants. I'm a younger guy too and my parents wanted me to get a small car instead of a truck, but I didn't want my first car to be a lame Pontiac Grand Am or Ford Escort like everyone else in my generation. I got what I wanted and I make a few more trips to the gas station than I would've but I don't regret it, to each his own.

 

The problem with HIM buying a dually is that it drives up the price for those of us that actually USE them.
Just like all these soccer moms driving around in crewcab F350s when at most they should be driving an explorer

I stick to my original statement, buy a F150

 

I know where your coming from LittleBig1995. I have always waned one these trucks and I knew I was going to get one. I bought one when I was 18 for $4,700 (details are in my sig). The 460 has more power then I probably will ever need and only gets about 10 mpg, but when I saw this truck I had to have it. So here I am three years later and I've put over $8k in repairs into it. With the repairs I have made, all of the major expenses are out of the way. And I still would not trade this truck for anything newer since I love these trucks.
So when you get one(since it sounds like you will) you need to be ready for repairs regardless of what engine/trans/body you decide.

 

I know it'll be expensive to fix to some extent just because a low mileage truck has 200grand plus on the clock. As for me buying on "driving up the price" it's not like I'm buying 40 of them, and if you 'need' one of these trucks to use, you could just as easily buy a newer truck for about the same price. So I don't see how you can act like I'm hurting the market or something, that's just crazy

 

I think what Brad means is that if someone doesn't need a dually, but buys one anyway, will eventually drive up the prices of used ones that are for sale since there is now one less up for grabs, making them harder to come by.

 

That would be the basics of supply and demand. If everyone drove F350s Ford would just make more of them...

Owning a boat, a hot rod, a snowmobile, side by side, etc. is the same thing as this guy wanting to own an F350. No it doesn't make financial sense whatsoever, but if a guy gets some enjoyment out of it that's what counts. If he can afford it (not get financing!) then more power to him. I agree, an F150 would suite his needs well, but fall short on the want.

I'd argue that unless you tow/haul for your job/livelihood, you don't need a truck. If you use your truck for towing your boat, race car, projects, etc the truck falls in the same category as the toys. Does that make it wrong for you to own the truck because you don't need it? No of course not. You could, however, give up your hobbies and sell the truck so that you don't have anything you don't need. What the hell fun would that be though.

Study up in school, get your mech. engineering degree, and be willing to move around for a good job. You'll be able to buy what you'd like after a few paychecks. Just don't get married, have kids, or incur substantial debt prior and you'll be set to buy what you'd like shortly after graduation. Don't "hang out" in your undergraduate for 5 or 6 years, focus just a little and 4 years isn't a big deal.

 

^^This X1000

The number of highschool kids in my area who own a pick up truck that they never EVER haul a load with is spectacular. The number of them with 3/4 and bigger diesel trucks is also ridiculous.

I bought a 3/4 ton pick up for dirt cheap for work. It's both practical, and something I like. It is certainly not the cleanest truck or the prettiest, but it is everything I need to haul a car trailer, farm equipment, ect. My brother owns an 87 ranger with an I4, 5 speed, and 4x4, it's the most anemic truck, but you can still haul anything he'd need in the box, and put a small trailer behind it. That's all he does, andfor him to have bought an extended cab dually with a powerstroke diesel would be nothing short of ignorant. He'd only be shorting somebody that NEEDS the truck more than him to actually work.

Which leads into exactly what Brad is saying. You buying a truck that you aren't going to utilize hurts the market for the trucks. People will jack the prices up because there aren't as many for sale, and that means that he is inadvertently wasting our money by foolishly spending. Buy a truck that makes sense for you to use. An extended cab half ton is plenty for what you are describing your intended uses.

 

I do have to agree with Brad and GNR here. I have a F150 EC with a 5.8. As much as I love it, I could do everything I need with Ranger. To be honest the only reason I have my truck is because we have had the thing for 16 years. When I got my license it had been sitting for months not running and was about to be scrapped. Instead of forking out all the money I had for a new vehicle with unknown problems, I spent a small amount of my money to get the old truck running. I have considered something smaller numerous times, but the realization that I drive so little as it is, it really isn't too expensive. And that I can't bring myself to sell it.

 

being a d%@# isn't going to get you anywhere on here. you said eventually you would tow a tractor. what kind of tractor, if its something small like my wd a f150 with a car trailer is all you need, if its like my grandpa's 1755 (small compared to the new ones) a 1 ton dually from this generation isn't even rated high enough ( they will pull it just not rated for it) as for the 4 wheelers and dirt bikes, unless they weigh more than 3/4 cord of wet oak (about 3000 pounds) than a f150 will be just fine as my 150 handled that and it was still 3 inches from the bumpstops and flexed the overloads only 1.5 inches

 

Let's not start any name calling or insulting here. Try and keep this thread clean shall we?

 

yeah, sorry if you weren't trying to sound like a ***** or anything, it just came across that way on this end

 

Ok, I'll join the 60% of private people that own duallys and never use them for their full potential. I'm not counting commercial work trucks. And I know I can do everything, my 3.0 ranger with 4.10 gears and 5 speed is more than I'll need all through college, I'm not sure the weight on either of our tractors, but I know we BARELY made it home in my dads f150 with all the towing package and chip etc. and we had to leave all the atvs etc cuz it woulda been too much, so it'll get SOME use. As for the market, it's an OLD truck, and it's your preference to want it there are other trucks. Same reason you buy a vette. Cuz you think it's cool