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Old 06-09-2013, 10:15 PM
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1977 F150 - 460 Swap and Body Work

I'm starting this thread to document the progress that I have made on my 1977 F150 Custom (RWD)




It Currently has a very tired(blowby) 351M with a bad set of main bearings. So I was getting ready to pull the engine that was in the truck and rebuild it when I came across a good 460 from one of my neighbors. Picked it up for a good price and I will take it home next friday.

I have already done a lot of prep work to get the engine out, starting with deciding whether or not to pull the grill shell and front bumper.

That would be a big Yes with my lift.



So work began to remove the grill and bumpers. Once that was complete I had plenty of room to get my lift in place to pull the engine.


It seemed like a good time to go ahead and do some quick paint work on the radiator support


The next day when everything was nice and dry I went ahead and started removing engine accessories and electrical connections.


Since I do not have a garage, and I have to work out in the open, work has halted at this point to make sure the old engine remains rebuild-able if the new 460 turns out to be too far gone.

So i turn my attention to some body work that needs to be done.. and break out the old hammer and dolly set.


On the rear passenger side of the truck in the wheel wells had been chewed up from a blow out several years ago.


A few hours of work goes by and I feel this panel is ready for a very light coat of filler and primer.


I don't have any images of the front of that fender completed but I do have what It looks like before the work.


More work to come.
 
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I'm starting this thread to document the progress that I have made on my 1977 F150 Custom (RWD)

Did you steal FMC400's truck.

If I remember correctly his truck is pretty identical to yours.
 
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Old 06-16-2013, 10:27 AM
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I was able to go and pickup my new to me 460 today, it came out of a 1979 Bronco that had been rolled so it already had most of the things on it for the swap I need like engine mounts and brackets




Engine Mounts


Brackets/etc


Good old AFB Carter


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Old 06-16-2013, 12:39 PM
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I've gotten the Casting numbers on a few things, it appears to be a reman engine with a 1970 460 block

block casting, love front facing cell phone cameras..


Heads


Intake
 
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Should have taken a compression ck before buying engine. too late for that. Before you drop engine into truck at least take one now. should have a least 140# on each cyl.
you'll have a lot better engine with the 460 but also a bigger gas guzzler. I think it would have been easier just to undue the two rad. support bolts, fender bolts on the cowl and inner fenders and lift off the whole front clip. It's not to late. it's how I did mine and you have lots of room to put it all back together.
 
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I figured for $100 I would have a good starting point for a rebuild, the plan was to tear it down and re-ring and new bearings if I didn't need anything major.

I never do any engine swaps without first tearing down the engine, this way I make sure i'm not wasting my time by putting in a blown motor.
 
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I removed the intake and accessories.

Under the carb I had a 1" spacer, looks like a standard Oreilly's or AutoZone part


top view with Carb/Distributor removed.


Intake and valve covers removed, pretty standard build by the looks of it. the cam doesn't show too much for wear, It will still be replaced with a Comp Cams XE256H and a double roller timing set


it appears to already have the right exhaust manifolds for the 460 swap.


More work tomorrow!
 
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just looking at these pics, and I think i'll start using my DSLR instead of my Cell Phone Camera...

Better quality pics soon to come!
 
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Looks like a pretty solid build in the making! Keep up the good work.
 
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Cool truck!
 
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I've started tearing down the 460 today, it all looks pretty good so far, minimal wear but a bit of carbon buildup and some rusty water jackets..

I always have help when I'm working on stuff in the yard. Ginny is never far.



Removing the exhaust manifolds reveal that these gaskets are pretty new.. the bolts were very easy to remove, even though there was no sign of anti-seize.


To remove the heads, i broke out the cylinder head tray to keep my parts in order. It fit quite well in the valley.


The rocker arms appear to be just standard ford stamped steel.


The tray makes it very nice to keep things organized in the past I have used the old school method of cardboard and wire to keep everything together. I decided to buy these when I did my 350 in my 1967 C20, and I have loved them.


Minimal wear on the Rockers.


Pushrod wear seems minimal as well


Valves also show minimal signs of wear


All of the lifters looked like this, the oil in this engine also appears to be clean


Cylinder heads show a lot of carbon buildup, and a bit of rust in the water passage


With the cylinder heads removed I now have good access to see into the piston bores. other than a little carbon buildup it looks pretty good. You can still see the crosshatching done when the cylinders were honed


They appear to be standard pistons.


This is where I stop for now, it's going to get really hot outside in the next couple of hours so I will take a break for now.


All the pictures in this post were taken with a Canon Rebel T2i with a Canon EF 28-105mm f3.5:4.5 previous pictures were taken with a Samsung Galaxy S3.
 
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Some Minor Painting
 
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I smell OLD FORD BLUE PAINT nice progress
 
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Not sure if i'm going to need a rear sump or a front sump oil pan for my RWD F150, but I do have both...

 
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Originally Posted by marchettej
I've gotten the Casting numbers on a few things, it appears to be a reman engine with a 1970 460 block.
D0VE block casting number refers to both 1970 429 & 460. The blocks are the same as is the bore, the stroke is different. C8SE intake manifold: 1968 429/460.

1968/71: 460's only installed in Lincoln/Mark III's initially. 1972 Thunderbird was the first 'Ford' to come with 460.

Better measure the stroke to determine the engine size.

460 not available with 4WD or a M/T until 1983. So, the 460 was swapped into the Bronco, 4WD engine supports bolt to the inner frame rails, not so on 2WD's.

1973/79 F100/350 460:

D3TZ-6028-A Right & D3TZ-6029-A Left .. Engine Supports aka towers/stands/perches.

D3TZ-6030-A Right & D3TZ-6031-A Left .. Brackets-Bolt to block-rubber insulators bolt to these than to supports.

2) D3TZ-6038-A .. R/L Front Rubber Insulators.
 


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