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Brand new steel front fenders for '48 - '52 ???

Posted on the Ford Barn... I have to assume they mean steel?!

"Page 72 of the new Dennis Carpenter catalog says that they'll soon have 48-52 front fenders."

I find it hard to believe they would do both 48 - 50 AND 51 - 52.
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That would be interesting to see. One would think, though, that the bulk of the tooling is the main shape, and it wouldn't be that big of a deal to change the front grille opening to fit both styles. The only thing more curious than how well they'd fit would be price. They can't be cheap.
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Thats great, well as long as they at least do the better looking ones im happy.
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...as long as they at least do the better looking ones im happy.
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Might have to mortgage the house to purchase a pair !!
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Very cool! Anxious to see how they look. I see they're "imported". I wonder how they're making them, and are the uppers truly one-piece?
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If they cost less than $500, which I doubt, they'd be a bargain no matter if they needed tweaking. The '48-52 fenders are a lot bigger and more complicated than the '53s and up and they sell for $350. I'd think the '48-52 would have to sell for twice that. Northern Classic Trucks sell the bottoms for the '48-50 for $550 a pair.

The funny thing about the high price parts is even though there is a great demand for them no one seems willing to pay the price. Part like the wheels that replace the factory WMs are in big demand but very few are willing to pay $100 a piece for a set of six with decent rubber. I look at it this way, if you have a newer Ford F-150 and need a fender, which is basically a pound or two of simple stamped sheet metal I'd bet a Ford dealer would ask at least $300 for it. They have been stamping these fenders out for years, there is also a good supply of them in junkyards. The '48-52 fenders are rare as hen's teeth and if someone does make a short run they are going to have to spread the cost of tooling over a very small amount. If they ask $500+ per fender it was be a very good deal, IMO.
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Back in the spring of 01 I hit a deer going down the interstate. I made the choice to go glass for $250/ea at that time. I held on to the front always thinking it might be salvageable at some point...maybe some day still. But the rear was trashed. If glass fenders were $250 more than ten years ago, I'd be surprised to find steel repop's less than $650 today.

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If they make the fenders the same as originals there's at least 4-5 individual pieces that have to be stamped. The smaller pieces I don't think would be all that hard to replicate but the overall shell would take at least 3 procedures to make, maybe more. I knew an old German tool maker who worked for the big 3 at different times making the tooling to stamp sheet metal. He looked at the hood of my truck and described all the different steps needed to stamp the hood. I think he said there were at 4 procedures needed and the tooling back in '48 just for the hood, I think he said, was probably close to a million bucks.
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... He looked at the hood of my truck and described all the different steps needed to stamp the hood. I think he said there were at 4 procedures needed and the tooling back in '48 just for the hood, I think he said, was probably close to a million bucks.
I read an article about the then-new '93 Camaros in an SAE magazine. The chief project engineer was being grilled for using polymer front fenders. He said in retrospect he would have used steel but GM's standard requirements for dies were based on a set that would meet dimensional tolerances and last for like 50,000 units before needing repair. He said a set of dies that would only last 10,000 units cost 1/10th as much, and would have been acceptable for relatively low Camaro production (compared to Cavaliers, etc). If tolerances were sloppier, 1/20th. So... expect some fiddling.

Is it too much to ask that these be electrogalvanized???
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IMO it would be nice to have them available. I keep a spare set of upper fenders, with rust in the usual spots, just incase of an accident (not for sale). With a set of 16ga. running boards going for $520, probably made useing original presses someone aquired. I can only imagine what a from scratch set of fenders would be valued at. Does anyone know who is using old Ford presses and for what parts? I was just wondering.
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If they ask $500+ per fender it was be a very good deal, IMO.
I agree totally. When you look at the amount of work needed on even the best old fenders anymore, that would be a small investment for immediate progress on a project. I would certainly take a serious look at them. I say the same thing about replacement pickup boxes. For about $1000, you get half of your truck done in new, straight sheet metal ready for paint. That's tough to beat, and it's impossible to mud up both sides of used bedsides and make them look like something. You can easily exceed the cost of a new bed in materials and still have crap.
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IMO it would be nice to have them available. I keep a spare set of upper fenders, with rust in the usual spots, just incase of an accident (not for sale). With a set of 16ga. running boards going for $520, probably made useing original presses someone aquired. I can only imagine what a from scratch set of fenders would be valued at. Does anyone know who is using old Ford presses and for what parts? I was just wondering.
I have an extra set of fenders for my panel just in case. I also have extras for the F-2 and F-4. My wife thanks I'm goofy but if I need a replacement were am I going get them? I know when croak she'll probably sell for scrap.
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I just got a response from Dennis Carpenter to an email I sent them yesterday asking about the new steel front fenders they have advertised in their latest catalog. Here's their response:

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WE ARE NOT REPRODUCING THE FRONT FENDERS FOR AT LEAST TWO MORE YEARS. THE REAR FENDERS IN TWO DIFFERENT STYLES SHOULD BE AVAILABLE AROUND APRIL 2014.
I called them this morning to find out if they have an idea of what the price is going to be and the person I talked to said he couldn't find information about the price but assumed they would be about the same price as the '53-56 fenders, around $350. I doubt they can be offered for as little as that. The '48-52 fenders have more metal and are more complex than the newer model fenders. If they are sold for around that price I would assume that would be just for the upper part and the lower would be an additional cost.

If they did sell in the $300-400 range I predict they would fly off the shelf. You can easily stick more into a fairly nice but used fender to make it right.
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I wonder how many people will really buy them. 'Glass fenders have been around for two or more decades, will folks like me who have 'glass throw them aside to go steel? How many totally unrestored Bonus Builts are left? IMO they waited way too long to think about making these.
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