Surge at idle but doesn't change RPM?
#1
Surge at idle but doesn't change RPM?
2003 7.3, 116k, auto trans.
When sitting at idle I can here an intermittent humming noise. When it happens you can feel the truck vibrate slightly. I had my 4" MBRP exhaust installed today and the surge/humming is even more evident because it changes the tone of the exhaust ever so slightly.
I have an auxiliary idle controller so I am able to monitor the exact RPM of the engine and it does not change with the humming noise. It'll it happens every 3-5 seconds when idling warm. Does not happen, or at least not noticeable when the engine is cold.
I've had two other 7.3s, one a 2003 an the other a 1999 and neither have done this. AC/heater off or on makes no change.
Could it possibly be my vacuum pump? I don't know. If so, where is it located?
When sitting at idle I can here an intermittent humming noise. When it happens you can feel the truck vibrate slightly. I had my 4" MBRP exhaust installed today and the surge/humming is even more evident because it changes the tone of the exhaust ever so slightly.
I have an auxiliary idle controller so I am able to monitor the exact RPM of the engine and it does not change with the humming noise. It'll it happens every 3-5 seconds when idling warm. Does not happen, or at least not noticeable when the engine is cold.
I've had two other 7.3s, one a 2003 an the other a 1999 and neither have done this. AC/heater off or on makes no change.
Could it possibly be my vacuum pump? I don't know. If so, where is it located?
#4
I do have an aeroforce gauge which can monitor IPR. Anyone know what values I should be looking for? Should they be constant?
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#8
My CPS was changed out a couple months ago by the dealership under recall... How do I get a black CPS?
I just bought the truck in feb and don't remember if I noticed this before or not. But it is annoying as hell that's for sure!
Aeroforce gauge says my injector control pressure is between 450 to 600 at idle... usually around 550.
I just bought the truck in feb and don't remember if I noticed this before or not. But it is annoying as hell that's for sure!
Aeroforce gauge says my injector control pressure is between 450 to 600 at idle... usually around 550.
#9
My CPS was changed out a couple months ago by the dealership under recall... How do I get a black CPS?
I just bought the truck in feb and don't remember if I noticed this before or not. But it is annoying as hell that's for sure!
Aeroforce gauge says my injector control pressure is between 450 to 600 at idle... usually around 550.
I just bought the truck in feb and don't remember if I noticed this before or not. But it is annoying as hell that's for sure!
Aeroforce gauge says my injector control pressure is between 450 to 600 at idle... usually around 550.
Icp should be good at that pressure, warm at idle.
#10
There are people who have personal stockpiles, but I haven't seen a true "black" CPS sold since Clay was able to locate a stash from somewhere, a couple years ago.
Stewart
#11
You should see an ICP of about 2200 PSI while cranking, 700 PSI while idling dead-cold, and about 500-ish when warmed up at idle. Engine Oil Temperature tells the PCM when it needs to alter the ICP setting to get better atomization when cold or cranking.
IPR is typically about 11% when ICP is 500 PSI, and about 14% when ICP is 700 PSI (at idle). This is for a stock truck with good working HPOP and sensors. Different sticks, bad sensors, high idle, and/or an HPOP mod throws these numbers to the wind.
One more caveat: I see these numbers on synthetic oil... I can't be sure of dead dinos.
IPR is typically about 11% when ICP is 500 PSI, and about 14% when ICP is 700 PSI (at idle). This is for a stock truck with good working HPOP and sensors. Different sticks, bad sensors, high idle, and/or an HPOP mod throws these numbers to the wind.
One more caveat: I see these numbers on synthetic oil... I can't be sure of dead dinos.
#13
Is it just surging a little or really bad? My ICP went out after installing my T500, like minutes after, and have heard of others too. I think maybe mine was going bad then with the extra pressure from the new HPOP finished it off.
Try unpluging the ICP and see if it makes a differance.
#14
Oils new, surge is not real bad but I can't live with it. The ICP which I take is the In Injector Pressure Regulator found screwed into the HPOP. It's supposed to be new as have paid $ 128 for a new one that the shop that did most of my work. So many new parts don't know. First bit of work $6500.00. I really don't like some mechanics.