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Old May 31, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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low vs high level input

ok this is what i got.kenwood head unit with sirius,audio storm 100x4 amp, 2 6x9, 2 5 1/4, and 2 tweeters. all eclipse
first should i hook up to the low level or high level.
the highs i would like to be a little krisper.
and the whole thing a little louder.
their is a crossover in the amp and a seperate one for the 5 1/4 and tweets.

is switching from the low to high level going to give me anything?

or do i need to replace something.
 
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Old May 31, 2003 | 11:57 PM
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It looks like you have a set of components (5.25" and the tweets) and a set of 6x9's. First off, how many preouts does you Kenwood have?

Second, install your components. You do know how to install these components, don't you? 5.25" woof in stock location (I'm assuming the door) and the tweeter should be mounted where ever it sounds best to you. Use two sided tape and put the tweet in different locations. The A-pillar, sail panels, or the door panel itself are usually the best options...assuming you don't want to use/buy/make kickpanels. There will be 3 connections on you component crossover. One for the input signal. You connect the two wires that connected to your stock speakers. The second set of terminals is for the woofer. Connect the +/- accordingly. The final set of terminals is for the tweeter. Connect just as you did with the woofers. You do this for both the left and right channel (each woofer/tweeter has it's own crossover). Your crossover should have tweeter attenuation. Adjust this to make up for any shortcomings the tweet may have.

Third, install the 6x9's in the rear.

Fourth, use your four channel amp to power both sets of speakers. The front two channels for the comps and the rear channels for the 6x9's. If your Kenwood only has 1 preout, you will need to purchase a Y-adapter (only a few bucks). This will convert your single preout (again, assuming you only have one. If you have 2 sets, disregard the advice about the Y-adapter) into 2 sets of preouts.

If you need instructions on installing an amp, come back to this forum. One of us will be glad to help.

Also, if you DO have everything installed correctly, I can give a few tips/tweaks to get the most out of ALL your speakers.

If I misinterpreted your question, uh......disregard everything I just typed. It seemed as if you are a newbie, so I just responded with a step by step response. Your question was a little hard for me to make out...

 
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Old Jun 1, 2003 | 09:18 AM
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low vs high level input

the kenwood has 3 pre-outs front, rear,and non fading.
everything is hooked up correct.
i was wondering if hooking the amp up from the high level if that would give me any extra volume and clarity.
and a few tip/tricks would be great.

i have done all this before but with cheap crap and now that i actually spent some money i want it to sound the best it can.

thanks chris
 
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 04:58 AM
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Use the rca's, it provides a much cleaner and stronger signal to the amps.

A few things to check...

Does your components xovers have tweeter att. ? If you lift the cover off the xover, there should be tweeter att. level. You can adjust the "crispness" of the tweeter with this control.

Another method of enhancing tweeter response is adjusting the mid control on your HU "eq", however crude it may be. If you have "high", "mid", and "low" adjustments on your HU, try messing around with the "mid". You shouldn't need to increase the level past 1, maybe 2. Mess around with the "high" also, as this will increase the tweet level independent of the mids and lows. Sometimes it can sound unnatural, though.

Switch the polarity on the driver side tweet. Minor difference, but if you really try, you can hear it. A lot of "small" things add up to "big things"

Where are the tweets located. The higher they are, usually the "crisper" they sound. You don't want them to high though, as they might cause sounstage and imaging anamolies. High frequencies, especially those from a tweeter, are very placement sensitive. You need to experiment with tweet placement (you do, not your installer. He might look for a different "sound" than you...) Unless you have a tweet with wide dispersion, or unless the tweet is aimed somewhere undesirable, the sound may sound muted or less crisp. Tweet placement is very, very important to having a accurate soundstage.

If you're suffering from severe cancellation, switch the polarity of the passenger side woofer on the xover. If you're indeed suffering cancellation, this can make a drastic difference in midbass and bass performance. I did this around 6 months ago and the difference was night and day. You may not suffer from cancellation, in which case it takes a minute to switch back to "normal".

Double check your crossovers and gains. Inaccurately set, it can also make a huge difference in SQ and SPL.

Of course, the easiest way to adjust everything is to go out and buy a nice parametric EQ
 
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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Heres the difference between the high and low-level outputs your questioning.

The High level output is a speaker level output from your headunit. This means the headunit amplifies the signal and sends it through speaker wires. You would then connect them to your speakers, OR to the "high level input" on your amplifier.

The Low level output is the pigtails of RCA's that come off the back of your reciever. These are non-amplified line source outputs. They must connect to the RCA inputs on your amplifier.

The reason why you want to use low level RCA outs is LESS DISTORTION. When you use a signal that is amplified by a weak head unit amplifier, and then send it to be amplified again by your audio storm amp, you will have less clarity. Chances are you wont have *much* more volume that way either. Especially if your H.U. has a high output voltage (over 2v is good)

Hope this helps!
 
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