i think i finally uploaded my f3 ambulance pics! only took me 8 months!!! but dont ask me where they are?? but i think they went somewhere!! album? gallery? swell of 64? good hunting! chris

 

this must be it, you have a gallery.

 

And it's a Marmon-Herrington! First let me extend a warm welcome to the group. We have a few other UK and EU members that have the '51 F-3 M-H ambulances, but yours is the first we've seen that is a pure panel van style. The others are window vans. All appear to be from the 1951 model year, and were no doubt military or civil defense issue. And all that I've seen were six cylinder, assuming yours is too.

Can you tell me if your truck has a single speed transfer case, or two speed case. In the states the M-H literature shows only the two speed case being used in 1951 (R32-4 or 6R32-4 model) but I know of at least one single speed '51 F-3 (mine). The '48 and later single speed F-2/3s would be an R3-4 model (V8) or 6R3-4 (six cylinder).

Below are pictures of other members trucks, and others I've archived. The first picture is Chill51s truck, and the second is Sickman's. The next two are just file pictures I saved. I'll come back to add more. Stu

Edit - My order I think is messed up now. The dark blue truck is Chill51s, the unrestored grey one is Sickman's, the two green pictures are the same truck, and I believe the restored grey is the same truck in different locations. The Civil Defense truck is in an old period picture. The action photo of the truck with the white grille is from the movie Superman IV.

 

Welcome to the board!

That's quite a truck, a real beast. It should be an interesting project

Bobby

 

I would give whatever was needed to have one of these in a Monkey Face.

 

Why would you want to make an already beautiful truck ugly?

 

You two stop it! Don't make me have to pull over.

 

Newer members might need to be oriented to the meaning of our slight jabs at each other. A "monkey face" is a '48-'50 body style, and a "manure spreader" is the better looking and much improved '51/'52 body style. There, that explains it.

But it doesn't help the original poster or others know that there were some monkey faced M-Hs similar to the ones pictured. None that I've seen with exactly the same body, but similar. Here's a picture of one. Oops, not a M-H! I'll keep looking. Stu

 

It appears to have a 2.5L diesel?

 

Good eye, Ross, you dug deeper into the gallery than I did. I don't find any '48-'50 pics of a similar M-H. Stu

 

I just love the gray one in truckdog's pics. I would like to get one of those to add to the collection but I'm afraid I would be shot by the wife. Yes she knows how to handle a gun. LOL

 

It's after midnight, and this made me LOL! My wife thinks I'm crazy. Then I had to explain the Monkey Face/Manure Spreader feud. She still thinks I'm crazy...

 

wow , ta for the replys and info, especially td,bobby,ayb,pm, etc. my british ford transit [well spotted albuq!] diesel engine conversion is a 4 banger with 5 speed box into a 2 shift transfer box. it was a window van, converted to panel before i got it. and... lol.... i used to own a monkey face!!!! i shipped it to uk in the 80s . i built a belly tank replica and towed it around the uk hotrod shows, ill try and dig out some photos. ps if anyone reading this in the uk i have a 165 gal fibreglass drop/belly tank for sale on ebay. ta

 

More questions:

Front Axle/Transfer Case Relationship - on US models having the 2 speed transfer case the front drive shaft travels forward to the left offset differential on the left side of the vehicle. Is that how your truck is layed out? Have you retained the stock transfer case and location?

Front Axle Number - I doubt your truck was built in the US, but wonder if M-H supplied axles to other plants using the same numbering sequence. For instance, the front axle under my project truck is stamped R32-544 on the front of the long tube. Others that I have are R32-342 and R32-561. Do you find any similar marking on your axle, and what number do you find so that I may archive the information?

Badging/Point of Origin - Is there a M-H badge located over the windscreen (or anywhere for that matter) identifying where the truck was made? Assume it is right hand drive if it was Belgian military. Marmon-Herrington had affiliated companies in Canada and South Africa that did their conversions. I'd have to look up the name of the S.A. company, but know the Canadian affliate was Canadian Traction Co. Ltd. Would you be willing to send me the M-H numbers off that plate for my archive?

VIN Sequence - I swapped notes long ago with Chill51 (Mike, also in the UK) about his truck and have archived his VIN sequence as F3H1ABXxxxxx. Does your VIN follow that same pattern? The "F3" is obviously the model, "H" is for the truck's original 226 c.i. flat 6 engine, and "1" is for 1951. I don't know what the "ABX" factory designation means. Would you also be willing to send me a private message with your VIN for my archive?

I appreciate your help. Stu

 

hey stu,archive info...my brass chassis plate reads...... ford motor co [sa] belgium. f3hi 1951. chassis no..f3h1abx120980352. kg's.. 3083. yeh drive shaft goes to front axle on left as you look at the truck. number on long axle tube is 121o. mine is left hand drive. mh badges at rear of bonnet\hood no numbers. now you mentioned 2 speed transfer case? having not driven mine yet i presumed it was a 4x4 engagement lever[4x4 or 2x4] can you tell me which position is hi +low? thanks chris