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Old 01-15-2013, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PaysonPSD
You can make a pigtail out of the old UVCH. The injector connector is the same as the IPR solenoid connector. I've done this before.
No kidding?! I would say I learn something new here every day but I think it's more like 20 things a day on FTE.
 
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by howellt39
You mentioned the IPR plug, and certainly appears there's trouble there, but Drake was referring to the ICP plug as well. It's on the front inside face of the DS head. Pull that electrical connector off and if the plug is wet with oil then that sensor is going bad and can cause startup and fuel delivery problems since these injectors rely on high pressure oil to actuate.
Read the OP's first post.
 
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FoxNotch
Aside from the bad plug (which I must have pulled loose while working), the IPR was loose on it's stud. Could the truck still run like that?

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What was loose was the solenoid that slips onto the IPR and is held tight with the nut and top hat spacer. It will run with a loose nut but not real well. The solenoid is an electo-magnet. It gets a 400 hertz signal from the PCM and controls a small needle valve in the IPR to adjust ICP (Injector Control Pressure).

So did you actually remove the IPR or just the solenoid? Sounds like you just removed the solenoid.

This is the IPR with solenoid removed.

 
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Originally Posted by PaysonPSD
Read the OP's first post.
Thanks, missed it the first time.
 
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yes it can...
could also explain rough running conditions before the work...

you might have just found the reason you pulled the injectors in the first place...

splice the pigtail... tighten the nut back on (thats 55 inch pounds) and be merry...
 
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:43 PM
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Nice job! Sounds like you are going to be home free once you replace the pigtail and re-install tue IPR coil.

I hope a lot of folks read this thread and identify that we have a strong trend happening these days with bad IPR connector wires and possible even the occasional coil or tin nut issue. We all should make time to inspect the wires on our trucks, for whatever reason, that particular pair of wires seems to degrade much sooner than other wires in the system.
 
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I once found the IPR nut in my engine valley as well. My truck ran very rough at idle and did not want to stay running.
 
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Alright... cut a pigtail off the old harness, fit the weather seal on it and plugged her in. Turned over a few times and fired right up. After a few minutes she was running smooth. I'll be sure to put a few miles on this weekend.



Originally Posted by PaysonPSD
What was loose was the solenoid that slips onto the IPR and is held tight with the nut and top hat spacer. It will run with a loose nut but not real well. The solenoid is an electo-magnet. It gets a 400 hertz signal from the PCM and controls a small needle valve in the IPR to adjust ICP (Injector Control Pressure).

So did you actually remove the IPR or just the solenoid? Sounds like you just removed the solenoid.

This is the IPR with solenoid removed.

Yes, it was just the solenoid that had gotten loose. I cleaned it and re-installed.



Originally Posted by Christof13T
yes it can...
could also explain rough running conditions before the work...

you might have just found the reason you pulled the injectors in the first place...
Seems like it. After idling/revving for a while the miss that I had is gone. So I wasted a little time with the injector swap, but I learned a lot about the engine and it's running system. That comes in handy on the side of the road


Thanks for all the help!



Edit:
Just read back through the thread, and realized Shake-N-Bake posted the solution 8 minutes after my initial post. Unfortunately, until today, I had hte IPR confused with another sensor above it.

Originally Posted by Shake-N-Bake
Charge your batteries back up, make sure the IPR connector is plugged in and tin nut is tight, fuel bowl is full and try again. You are almost there... It should fire off any moment now.
 
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