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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 06:27 PM
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Shifter/steering column ?

Long story short, my truck was used by my family for my brother's wedding and now my shifter is broke.

I drove it down to the place that the wedding was and it was fine I got the flu and my truck was in my in laws drive way for a week. When I went over to drive it home, I start it, grab the shifter and there is nothing there (the shifter is there but no gears in the column) I can slam it all the way down and back up and nothing. The locking mech still works and you have to pull it to you to move from its most upright position. I did fiddle with it by pushing back toward the dash and managed to get it into drive and back to neutral. I have no idea what to do because I know nothing about this part of my truck. Then after I was hot about my truck being broken they told me they had to push it to the drive way. I know someone broke it because in order to push the damn thing they had to put it into neutral but it is what it is.

My truck: 1975 ford f150, lwb, single cab, 2wd, 460

Should I just order a new column or take to a transmission shop?
Any help is appreciated.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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I would say with you being in Florida the most cost effective way to fix would be to find a used column in a wrecking yard. 1973 thru 1977 would be the same using your wire harness.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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A very common problem. More than likely the shift socket is broken internally. This was always a weak spot with Ford.
That's the part on the column that the gearshift goes into.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 07:02 PM
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It could be the tab on the shifting tube broke free from its weld and is just sliding around tube instead of moving it.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 08:33 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I'll take a closer look. Maybe even take some pictures.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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Would any of you know any documents or a guide to repair this or install a new shift socket?
 
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 01:14 AM
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This is going from memory but, as I recall, it's fairly simple to change the shift socket.
Remove the steering wheel.
Completely remove the turn signal switch and pull the wiring out of the column
Drive out the pin that holds the gearshift lever to the shift socket.
Remove the gearshift lever.
Remove the snap ring from the steering shaft.
Now, the trickiest part. Below where the turn signal switch sits, there are two nuts, one at 6 o'clock and one at 12. Loosen these nuts as much as possible without taking them off. Wiggle and jimmy the collar to see if you can get it to come off. If not, take the nuts off but be careful. These nuts are attached to two short square head bolts. If they drop out, they can drop down into the column tube and be a royal PITA to get out.
Once the collar is off, you can slide the shift socket off of the shift tube.
Assemble in reverse order.
If I've missed anything, someone correct me.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bigjake62505
Long story short, my truck was used by my family for my brother's wedding and now my shifter is broke.

I drove it down to the place that the wedding was and it was fine I got the flu and my truck was in my in laws drive way for a week. When I went over to drive it home, I start it, grab the shifter and there is nothing there (the shifter is there but no gears in the column) I can slam it all the way down and back up and nothing. The locking mech still works and you have to pull it to you to move from its most upright position.

1975 F150 460/C6
More than likely the pot metal shift collar has broken, a somewhat common occurrence. It has an internal bridge made as part of it that connects it to the shift tube.

Over time, the bridge begins to crack, eventually breaks off. Now the shift lever flops around because the collar is no longer connected to the shift tube.

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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 05:00 AM
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Thats exactly what I was trying to describe.
 
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Originally Posted by mikeo0o0o0
A very common problem. More than likely the shift socket is broken internally. This was always a weak spot with Ford.
That's the part on the column that the gearshift goes into.
Ok thanks guys I love this place!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 09:40 AM
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You know what else I love about my truck. No matter what the issue is you always need parts and time with your truck. I'll let my wife know of the emergency at hand and have a fun day! God bless and hope you all enjoyed the holidays
 
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MikeoOoO...

those are not too bad to get out of the column if you have a magnet

what I can't figure out, is how to get those ddamn things back in the slots so they pull the flange forward/shift thing forward

any tips?
 
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jbancroft
MikeoOoO...
those are not too bad to get out of the column if you have a magnet
what I can't figure out, is how to get those ddamn things back in the slots so they pull the flange forward/shift thing forward
any tips?
Funny, I'm rebuilding the Pumpkin's steering column right now. I have it all torn down, just waiting for parts.
I'll try putting it back together this weekend with the old parts and see if I can offer any tips.
I'll let you know.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 10:21 PM
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thanks, I had a separate post on this with some pics

here are my pics of the problem

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my shifter was sloppy, and when I took that flange off behind the turn signal, and tried to put back on, can't figure out how to get those stupid little bolts to sit down into the slots
 
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jbancroft
can't figure out how to get those stupid little bolts to sit down into the slots
I reassembled the column and it was actually pretty easy.
On the back of the collar the square heads of the bolts sit in little wells that are also square. There are three "walls" that surround the bolt head. The side that goes towards the column tube is open, the side opposite that is tappered. Once you get the bolt heads in the slots, as you tighten the nuts the tapper forces the bolts towards the slots.
To get the bolt heads in the slots I just barely started the nuts onto the bolts. Then I pushed the nuts all the way in untill the nuts bottomed out. I got the top one in first then jiggled the collar untill the bottom one slipped on. Then I tightened both nuts untill they were snug.
 
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