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10-21-2012, 02:34 PM
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AE is likely the best for a consumer, but needs a laptop. I feel DashBoss for iphone/ipad is a far better option than ScanGauge.
Take for instance the HPOP pressure. You can read the HPOP pressure from the PCM, similar to SG2.
But DashBoss can also take the reading off the ICP sensor. SG2 cannot do that.
So you have ICP pcm, ICP calc, ICP volts and IPR % all with DashBoss.
Torque is available for Droid devices if you don't have an Apple product.
I am pretty biased though. I really like Dashboss, have met the owner personally and I am now active in the Beta testing program.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ord-6-0-a.html
The SG2 will always look like a 1980s Pocket Calculator to me. Not too mention all the frivilous programming it needs to operate.
The DashBoss is only really an option if you have an Apple product; iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch.
Josh
Take for instance the HPOP pressure. You can read the HPOP pressure from the PCM, similar to SG2.
But DashBoss can also take the reading off the ICP sensor. SG2 cannot do that.
So you have ICP pcm, ICP calc, ICP volts and IPR % all with DashBoss.
Torque is available for Droid devices if you don't have an Apple product.
I am pretty biased though. I really like Dashboss, have met the owner personally and I am now active in the Beta testing program.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ord-6-0-a.html
The SG2 will always look like a 1980s Pocket Calculator to me. Not too mention all the frivilous programming it needs to operate.
The DashBoss is only really an option if you have an Apple product; iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch.
Josh
sounds like ae is for me because i have a laptop but not a smartphone yet. im reading about the hpo air test too. thanks Josh.
thanks Josh.
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lol.
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#22
10-21-2012, 05:15 PM
Yes Oil Filter and Oil Filter CAP are they OEM
The wrong Cap & Filter combo will commonly Kill the IPR
BOTH STYLE OIL FILTER CAPS YOU WANT THE ONE ON THE LEFT SIDE ITS OEM
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post11094677
And AE with the Ford Bundle is about the Best it gets for a DIYer
Riff Raff has the Best Deal on them give Clay a Call he can Hook you up
The wrong Cap & Filter combo will commonly Kill the IPR
BOTH STYLE OIL FILTER CAPS YOU WANT THE ONE ON THE LEFT SIDE ITS OEM
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post11094677
And AE with the Ford Bundle is about the Best it gets for a DIYer
Riff Raff has the Best Deal on them give Clay a Call he can Hook you up
#23
10-21-2012, 05:25 PM
Thats Not true Unless you rewire it to your DashBoss Gauge DirectlyThen you might not see an issue with the Factory wire harness you must see what PCM sees
ICP PCM is Really Desired ICP
There is No ICP PCM in the Ford Values List they named it diffrent thats COOL though
Of Coarse SGII takes its reading from the ICP sensor they all do where Else would it get it ( Thats where it Originates) then goes to PCM.
The Only ICP that wouldnt take from ICP sensor is ICP Desired
You want to see the Value the PCM sees Cause if the Value/Signal is getting Messed up along the way say a wire problem that would throw the PCM threw a Loop
IMO seeing the Sensor value the PCM sees is More Important than the Actual sensor because it shows ANy problem be it a Bad Sensor Or Wire Harness issue
What the PCM sees is the Number thats used to Calibrate the truck Its GOD
The More I think about it It Cant Pull A Value from the sensor directly the Truck Isnt wired that way
You would have to install an Aftermarket wireharness from Said sensor to the Gauge Directly
Other than that ALL Gauges go threw PCM if your Pulling the Info from the OBDII Port and Factory wire Harness
Bottom Line is all these Gauges that plug into the OBDII Port are all getting the Info the same way DashBoss Isnt getting it any diffrent than SGII or Dash Daq or Even AE For that Matter
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Yes Oil Filter and Oil Filter CAP are they OEM
The wrong Cap & Filter combo will commonly Kill the IPR
BOTH STYLE OIL FILTER CAPS YOU WANT THE ONE ON THE LEFT SIDE ITS OEM
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post11094677
And AE with the Ford Bundle is about the Best it gets for a DIYer
Riff Raff has the Best Deal on them give Clay a Call he can Hook you up
The wrong Cap & Filter combo will commonly Kill the IPR
BOTH STYLE OIL FILTER CAPS YOU WANT THE ONE ON THE LEFT SIDE ITS OEM
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post11094677
And AE with the Ford Bundle is about the Best it gets for a DIYer
Riff Raff has the Best Deal on them give Clay a Call he can Hook you up
i havent changed the cap and ive always used a motorcraft filter. how long would it take for the wrong cap to cause issues? im gonna take a break from reading and go look at my cap.
#25
10-21-2012, 05:45 PM
IDK
Iv heard folks going 40,000+ before they had an issue
others not so Far
Just a Good thing to check
If you had a DVM (Digital Volt Meter) you could Backprobe the ICP Sensor plug and get the Volt Reading we could Convert that to ICP PSI and see if you get the 600+ ICP required to start
Get the Values for
KOEO
Crank
If Not AE I dont have one I wish but its a Sweet tool to have
I use the SGII and it is Great for the Price Its paid for itself Many times Over
Shure the DB has a Better Look but That Part Dont bug me I just want to be able to check things out if I do Happen to Break Down I have also seen a Few Issues coming before things went Bad to Worse.
I caught bad Battery the Other Day with it Before it Killed the FICM and Possibly the Alternator
Any Gauges is better than what you have At the Moment
Its a Must for these trucks
#26
10-21-2012, 07:26 PM
Thats Not true Unless you rewire it to your DashBoss Gauge DirectlyThen you might not see an issue with the Factory wire harness you must see what PCM sees
ICP PCM is Really Desired ICP
There is No ICP PCM in the Ford Values List they named it diffrent thats COOL though
Of Coarse SGII takes its reading from the ICP sensor they all do where Else would it get it ( Thats where it Originates) then goes to PCM.
The Only ICP that wouldnt take from ICP sensor is ICP Desired
You want to see the Value the PCM sees Cause if the Value/Signal is getting Messed up along the way say a wire problem that would throw the PCM threw a Loop
IMO seeing the Sensor value the PCM sees is More Important than the Actual sensor because it shows ANy problem be it a Bad Sensor Or Wire Harness issue
What the PCM sees is the Number thats used to Calibrate the truck Its GOD
The More I think about it It Cant Pull A Value from the sensor directly the Truck Isnt wired that way
You would have to install an Aftermarket wireharness from Said sensor to the Gauge Directly
Other than that ALL Gauges go threw PCM if your Pulling the Info from the OBDII Port and Factory wire Harness
Bottom Line is all these Gauges that plug into the OBDII Port are all getting the Info the same way DashBoss Isnt getting it any diffrent than SGII or Dash Daq or Even AE For that Matter
ICP PCM is Really Desired ICP
There is No ICP PCM in the Ford Values List they named it diffrent thats COOL though
Of Coarse SGII takes its reading from the ICP sensor they all do where Else would it get it ( Thats where it Originates) then goes to PCM.
The Only ICP that wouldnt take from ICP sensor is ICP Desired
You want to see the Value the PCM sees Cause if the Value/Signal is getting Messed up along the way say a wire problem that would throw the PCM threw a Loop
IMO seeing the Sensor value the PCM sees is More Important than the Actual sensor because it shows ANy problem be it a Bad Sensor Or Wire Harness issue
What the PCM sees is the Number thats used to Calibrate the truck Its GOD
The More I think about it It Cant Pull A Value from the sensor directly the Truck Isnt wired that way
You would have to install an Aftermarket wireharness from Said sensor to the Gauge Directly
Other than that ALL Gauges go threw PCM if your Pulling the Info from the OBDII Port and Factory wire Harness
Bottom Line is all these Gauges that plug into the OBDII Port are all getting the Info the same way DashBoss Isnt getting it any diffrent than SGII or Dash Daq or Even AE For that Matter
Make sense?
So with DB you have:
ICP desired
ICP actual
ICP volts
IPR %
Also keep in mind if running a custom tune ICP desired is no longer relevent as the tuners manipulate that number to get the performance they desire.
Josh
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10-21-2012, 08:38 PM
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Yes Oil Filter and Oil Filter CAP are they OEM
The wrong Cap & Filter combo will commonly Kill the IPR
BOTH STYLE OIL FILTER CAPS YOU WANT THE ONE ON THE LEFT SIDE ITS OEM
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post11094677
And AE with the Ford Bundle is about the Best it gets for a DIYer
Riff Raff has the Best Deal on them give Clay a Call he can Hook you up
The wrong Cap & Filter combo will commonly Kill the IPR
BOTH STYLE OIL FILTER CAPS YOU WANT THE ONE ON THE LEFT SIDE ITS OEM
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post11094677
And AE with the Ford Bundle is about the Best it gets for a DIYer
Riff Raff has the Best Deal on them give Clay a Call he can Hook you up
yup, got the short cap.
#28
10-21-2012, 08:40 PM
Scangauge cannot do ICP desired and ICP actual. ICP Calc on DashBoss takes the actual ICP voltage and calculates the actual HPOP pressure.
Make sense?
So with DB you have:
ICP desired
ICP actual
ICP volts
IPR %
Also keep in mind if running a custom tune ICP desired is no longer relevent as the tuners manipulate that number to get the performance they desire.
Josh
Make sense?
So with DB you have:
ICP desired
ICP actual
ICP volts
IPR %
Also keep in mind if running a custom tune ICP desired is no longer relevent as the tuners manipulate that number to get the performance they desire.
Josh
SGII gets all those^^^^in BLUE
Except ICP Desired And Sean (Amdriven) Had sent a Email to James at SG to get us the code for that one
ICP Desired is Good to see if there is a HPO Leak
And right with ya on a Tunner
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10-21-2012, 08:46 PM
#30
10-21-2012, 08:49 PM
As far as I know only AE and Dashboss can accomplish that.
Josh
