I swapped my old T-19 for a ZF5 and used the linkage from the old one so that I didn't need to relocate the hole in the floor of my truck.
I do not know where it sits with the more modern E4OD transmission.

 

I could tell ya this weekend! But I also do not have an answer... I measured the old vs new and theyre only about a half inch difference from the front of the bellhousing to where the shifter handle bolts on. Not sure about side to side or anything like that tho...

 

I might not understand what you're saying, but I helped my dad replace the pedal box in his 92 and we left the main part of the steering column in place. There's a joint in the steering shaft near the firewall that we disconnected which allowed enough room to get the pedal box out and back in.

 

Right. But my steering wheel hits the seat.

If I take the seat out (4 bolts and two belts w/Torx) the wheel can drop another foot, and I have a LOT more room to maneuver myself in order to bolt the pedal support back in.

 

We never had to move the steering wheel from its original position. The steering shaft at the firewall retracts into itself enough to get the pedal box through the gap.

 

Hmmmm,

My steering column bolts up to/is supported by the pedal trunnion casting.
You can see the two large holes on the right side of this pic.
How do you get it free without dropping the column?
(maybe later versions were different?)

 

Yeah and I didn't discover the flower-setting on my camera until later. LOL :)
The part number is 7A621...

^That picture shows my gold colored brake pushrod I shortened and used
for a clutch pushrod...


Alvin in AZ

 

Good pic of the firewall reinforcement plate.

Do you have enough room or a wide angle lens to take a pic of how it bolts to the firewall and the steering column brace in one photo? (with it installed in the truck)

 

Left "short snouted" one is for a manual...

^check it out, they are the same- except the manual one has a "cast in"
spacer.

My '75 F150 didn't have any of that silly stuff and never had a problem
with in 38 years (come Feb 14, 2013). ;) so I jumpered that stuff out
on the '91 Bronco. The manual-EEC needs to know the clutch pedal is
pushed-in on "pin 30" so it can drop to idle quicker. :) YMMV on that. ;)

Don't even think about pulling or stabbing a transmission without 'em... ;)

^made those in '79 and still using them since the 351w uses 7/16" bolts...

Alvin in AZ
'75 F150 360FE +T18
'91 Bronco 351w +2wd ZF +'90 F250 EEC :)
Ain't these pur-dy... ? :)


E4od = ~230# = ZF = ~145# + flywheel and pressure plate = ~230# too

 

The OP's 1997 should have a PMGR starter like I swapped into my '87.
They are the same overall length, just the gear is shorter.

 

I'll give it a try later, my wife's taken off for school in it already today. ;)

And I'll retake that dangged fuzzy picture too. :)

You guys seen the shape of the pushrod and its stud, just know that
188k miles on a company truck (never was oiled or anything) and the
firewall on that truck is good as new! :) So, like we've fiNgured;) out
before that plate does a great job of preventing the firewall problem.

Ford made a couple more versions depending on how bad the firewall
was (from then not installing that plate) to bolster the firewall, nothing
a guy (and/or a buddy) couldn't make just as good or better, IMO.

Seems like there's a gasket that comes with a new master cylinder?
^Heck, if so, there's your template! LOL :)

Alvin in AZ

 

was able to use the same starter I had when swapped EOD out and zf into a 1997 F250 460 heavy duty 2x4--but sure had to change the pcm--got one for a manual from O'Reilly's--love the swap--so much more fun to drive

 

That makes sense. I believe the '92-'96 pedal box mounts a little differently than the '87-'91 pedal box.

 

Back to starters: I looked at the starter off my 92 E4OD and compared it to the starter off the 89 ZF5 and they looked to be the same size. No obvious depth differences.

 

If there is no difference why are there different Lester numbers for an automatic (3226) and a manual (3225) 7.5l starter???
I have a 5 page thread from last year about 460 starter problems.
I think I've seen all this before...

Ford starter pdf