changing out tranny's
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changing out tranny's
hey guy's. Ive got a 302, 79 f100 style side, right now i have a four speed bulldog transmission. Dont really care for the low gearing, I am wanting something more adequate for normal driving
What i would like to do is either, go with a 5 speed manual,(for gas mileage. or, change it to an automatic.
I was told by a gentleman that I could use a later model atomatic transmission with manual overdrive (i think he said the overdrive connected to the drive shaft), Im really not very knowledgable about transmissions,
Id like to burn a little rubber if the mood hit, but also have a good top end running gear...
if im not mistaking, a c4 would match up to my 302
what is your suggestions.
What i would like to do is either, go with a 5 speed manual,(for gas mileage. or, change it to an automatic.
I was told by a gentleman that I could use a later model atomatic transmission with manual overdrive (i think he said the overdrive connected to the drive shaft), Im really not very knowledgable about transmissions,
Id like to burn a little rubber if the mood hit, but also have a good top end running gear...
if im not mistaking, a c4 would match up to my 302
what is your suggestions.
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C4s do not have overdrive. If your wanting to stick with a stick then the t-5 would be a good option for you to consider. You could also swap in a ZF5 but those are a little more expensive and I believe most with the sbf bellhousing comes with the low first gear.
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hi ,last week , i finished swap my transmission, i changed my old T-18 like yours , to a T-170 , this manual tranny has a overdrive with 4 gear 1 : 0.76 and it works so great fast and feel like a car in the shifter
it could be another option for you.
it could be another option for you.
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thanks guys, appreciate the feed back..
ocastari, you it the nail on the head as for what im wanting,,,, a lot of speed/power. feel like car in the shifter....
Jim, what is the AOD.
like i said guys, im kinda ignorant in the tranny area.
ocastari, you it the nail on the head as for what im wanting,,,, a lot of speed/power. feel like car in the shifter....
Jim, what is the AOD.
like i said guys, im kinda ignorant in the tranny area.
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AOD=Automatic ,with overdrive, not the manual 3+1 , which is a 3 speed almost like a top loader 4 speed but 4th is overdrive.
The AOD is almost the same size as a c/4 as far as the space it uses.
I have a couple i got by trading one of the 3+1 tranys for, i plan to put one in my 73 f-100 later.
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Another option is the M5OD-R1 tranny has 5 speeds and has hydraulic clutch, but you have to change a few more things like pedals, clutch plate
With the T-170 really felt much difference, and improved gas mileage and the better thing is that i used the same clutch plate the same bellhausing and the same fork of the old t-18 .
With the T-170 really felt much difference, and improved gas mileage and the better thing is that i used the same clutch plate the same bellhausing and the same fork of the old t-18 .
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is the T-170 a manual 4 speed or 5 speed,
What year trucks are they found in ? and it should bolt up to my existing bell hausing ?
When i change transmissions, do i need to do anything to my rear end ? change gears, etc.
I have a Hurst 4 speed shifter now, do you think it would be compatable with the t-170,
thanks guys, really appreciate the comments and suggestions.
What year trucks are they found in ? and it should bolt up to my existing bell hausing ?
When i change transmissions, do i need to do anything to my rear end ? change gears, etc.
I have a Hurst 4 speed shifter now, do you think it would be compatable with the t-170,
thanks guys, really appreciate the comments and suggestions.
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i came across 3 versions of the t-170
1 T-170FT (code-trs)
2 T-170F (cod -rug)
3 T-170RS (code-rug)
educate me on the differences and which one would be the best fit for my truck
79 f100 302 styleside twd
1 T-170FT (code-trs)
2 T-170F (cod -rug)
3 T-170RS (code-rug)
educate me on the differences and which one would be the best fit for my truck
79 f100 302 styleside twd
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In my case i chose the t-170 FT (code rts) because it has overdrive and the shifter is on the top
the donor was year 88 2wd .
in fact you can use the same bellhausing the same starter and the same cluth plate of the T-18 .
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ocastari, the Hurst shifter I currently should work with the t-170, it is a 4 speed shifter, would their be anything else I should change out with transmission ?
my clutch and everything seems to be in good shape, I cant notice any slip and it shifts very easy.
thanks for the help
dmarsh
my clutch and everything seems to be in good shape, I cant notice any slip and it shifts very easy.
thanks for the help
dmarsh
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ocastari, the Hurst shifter I currently should work with the t-170, it is a 4 speed shifter, would their be anything else I should change out with transmission ?
my clutch and everything seems to be in good shape, I cant notice any slip and it shifts very easy.
thanks for the help
dmarsh
my clutch and everything seems to be in good shape, I cant notice any slip and it shifts very easy.
thanks for the help
dmarsh
the tranny toploaded has 4 speed but i thing is not over drive like t-170 although both trannys has the same size , you dont need nothing else only swap this .
have you not thought about the other option the M50DR1 .?
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want to research how much i have to change, If the t170 will match up with all my current setup, i was thinking that for now it would be much easier to got that route,
what exactly has to be changed out with the MD50DR1... i know you have allready told me the clutch plate and pedals ( is that all? ).
and on the Hurst, i am refering only to the shifter, (like i said, I am an transmission idiot... ive fooled with them a bit, but not really enough to say I know anything about them....
But: I THINK I'M FIXING TO LEARN....lol
thanks for all the info.
what exactly has to be changed out with the MD50DR1... i know you have allready told me the clutch plate and pedals ( is that all? ).
and on the Hurst, i am refering only to the shifter, (like i said, I am an transmission idiot... ive fooled with them a bit, but not really enough to say I know anything about them....
But: I THINK I'M FIXING TO LEARN....lol
thanks for all the info.
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