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What parts can be removed from a 6.4 ?

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Old 09-23-2012, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by parkland
Yes you would, and also liquids to not simply jump in temperature from being compressed.

That couldn't be more thermodynamically wrong.
 
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by parkland
OK so I did a bunch of forum reading, and asked a few people as well.
I have a verdict now.

The fuel cooler is required, but the heat isn't generated by the pumps or anything, it's just the under hood temps and engine temps that raise the temperature.
Whenever you compress the fuel, heat is generated.

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The fuel that doesn't get used goes back to the bowl, so it can build up with heat.
If it went back to the tank, a small passive air cooler would be enough.
Ya know, there's a fuel return, right?
 
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:57 PM
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Whenever you compress the fuel, heat is generated.

Ya know, there's a fuel return, right?
Minimal, minimal heat is generated through compressing a liquid.


The fuel return only returns some of the fuel.
 
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by parkland
Minimal, minimal heat is generated through compressing a liquid.

This is true, but these engines do not compress liquids b/c that would mean they pretty much defy physics.

Compressibility is defined as the ability to change a medium's density. We can compress gases due to intermoleduclar spacing. Liquids and solids are considered incompressible until you get over 10000 bar or so when we get to regions of plasma.

These trucks pressurize liquids...which is different and whenever you put work into a system, you increase temperature (indicator energy in a medium). In this case, the fuel temperature is increased via the pressurization of the fuel.

The fuel temperature needs to be controlled in order to have a more predictable ignition timing which is important when engineers are metering fuel and injection timing for proper ignition.

In short, if you heat that fuel up, you are going to impact the ignition timing and can cause damage to the engine.
 
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What for? to have less issues? i bet you will have less issues if you leave it how it is rather then playing the trail and error game. You wanna remove something you don't need? remove the bed of the truck, it will run just fine without it!
 
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What for? to have less issues? i bet you will have less issues if you leave it how it is rather then playing the trail and error game. You wanna remove something you don't need? remove the bed of the truck, it will run just fine without it!
There is a lot of logic in what you are saying, but the 2nd cooling system is also a failure point, and takes up a lot of room.
 
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Originally Posted by parkland
There is a lot of logic in what you are saying, but the 2nd cooling system is also a failure point, and takes up a lot of room.
Then take it off. Just a few bolts and hoses.
 
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