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Ok, so that didn't fix my Cruise Control. What next???

Anyone have any ideas??? 2000 F-250 5.4 XLT. Cruise is broke. Bought it that way.

Just changed out the Cruise Control Cutout Switch (Brake Pedal/light) switch and that didn't work.

Fuses are good.

I did a self test (held off button on steering wheel) while turning on key. My cruise light don't come on AT ALL. I'm talkin' the cruise indicator light in the cluster. Never comes on.

Also, my ABS light is on (always has been).

With that said, I'm wondering if the speed controls on the steering wheel are bad themselves as the cruise indicator never comes on in the cluster... or with that ABS light always on... is that maybe causing the problem and if so, what would it be that's failing???

I don't have a volt meter to check wiring and I pretty much suck at anything electrical.

Please help anyone

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You might look at this thread I posted a while back and see if you have the cruse control recall harness installed on your vehicle which has a fuse in it, also the switch mentioned in the thread may also be bad on your vehicle (if the fuse in the recall harness has blown your switch needs to be replaced), or the wiring could have been disconnected from the switch (a temporary fix until the recall harness could be installed). https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...-vehicles.html
 
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Originally Posted by madsonp
You might look at this thread I posted a while back and see if you have the cruse control recall harness installed on your vehicle, also the switch mentioned in the thread may also be bad on your vehicle, or the wiring could have been disconnected from the switch. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...-vehicles.html
My vehicle is not on the list affected. That harness/wire was also changed to the new one (blue tags) when I changed the cutout switch yesterday.

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Originally Posted by jasondinsmoore
My vehicle is not on the list affected. That harness/wire was also changed to the new one (blue tags) when I changed the cutout switch yesterday.

Thanks for the reply.
When you say you changed the brake/pedal/light switch, are you referring to the one above the brake pedal on the shaft (this is the one that controls the brake lights), or the switch on the brake master cylinder ahead of the brake fluid reservoir (this is the one that shuts off your cruse control when the brake pedal is pushed)? Are you sure your indicator light isn't burned out? If you were looking at the first recall list posted on my thread, that list has since been expanded as shown here.

Vehicle Make / Model: Model Year(s):
FORD / CLUB WAGON 1994-1996
FORD / E-150 1994-1996
FORD / E-250 1994-1996
FORD / E-350 1994-1996
FORD / E-450 1996-2002
FORD / ECONOLINE 1994-1996
FORD / EXCURSION 2000-2002
FORD / EXPLORER 1998
FORD / F-250 1994-2002
FORD / F-350 1994-2002
FORD / F-450 SD 1994-2002
FORD / F-550 SD 1994-2002
FORD / MOUNTAINEER 1998
NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 06V286000
Summary:
ON CERTAIN TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH SPEED CONTROL, GASOLINE OR NATURAL GAS ENGINES, THE SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH MAY OVERHEAT.
Consequence:
OVERHEATING COULD RESULT IN SMOKE OR BURN AND AN UNDERHOOD FIRE.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSTALL A FUSED WIRING HARNESS INTO THE SPEED CONTROL SYSTEM FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON AUGUST 7, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT FORD AT 1-866-436-7332. (NOTE: ALSO SEE RECALLS 05V017 AND 05V388)
Notes:
FORD RECALL NO. 05S28. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
 
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I changed the cutout switch that's on the master cylinder. I checked my brake lights and they dont' stick on so that's kinda why i figured it wouldn't be the brake light switch.

I did just look at the first list, but i have since gone to my local dealers web page and put my VIN in to see if there is any outstanding recalls and it says there isn't any on my truck.
 
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Originally Posted by madsonp
When you say you changed the brake/pedal/light switch, are you referring to the one above the brake pedal on the shaft (this is the one that controls the brake lights), or the switch on the brake master cylinder ahead of the brake fluid reservoir (this is the one that shuts off your cruse control when the brake pedal is pushed)? Are you sure your indicator light isn't burned out? If you were looking at the first recall list posted on my thread that list has since been expanded as shown here.

Vehicle Make / Model: Model Year(s):
FORD / CLUB WAGON 1994-1996
FORD / E-150 1994-1996
FORD / E-250 1994-1996
FORD / E-350 1994-1996
FORD / E-450 1996-2002
FORD / ECONOLINE 1994-1996
FORD / EXCURSION 2000-2002
FORD / EXPLORER 1998
FORD / F-250 1994-2002
FORD / F-350 1994-2002
FORD / F-450 SD 1994-2002
FORD / F-550 SD 1994-2002
FORD / MOUNTAINEER 1998
NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 06V286000
Summary:
ON CERTAIN TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH SPEED CONTROL, GASOLINE OR NATURAL GAS ENGINES, THE SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH MAY OVERHEAT.
Consequence:
OVERHEATING COULD RESULT IN SMOKE OR BURN AND AN UNDERHOOD FIRE.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSTALL A FUSED WIRING HARNESS INTO THE SPEED CONTROL SYSTEM FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON AUGUST 7, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT FORD AT 1-866-436-7332. (NOTE: ALSO SEE RECALLS 05V017 AND 05V388)
Notes:
FORD RECALL NO. 05S28. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
I changed the cutout switch that's on the master cylinder. I checked my brake lights and they dont' stick on so that's kinda why i figured it wouldn't be the brake light switch.

I did just look at the first list, but i have since gone to my local dealers web page and put my VIN in to see if there is any outstanding recalls and it says there isn't any on my truck.
 
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Originally Posted by madsonp
When you say you changed the brake/pedal/light switch, are you referring to the one above the brake pedal on the shaft (this is the one that controls the brake lights), or the switch on the brake master cylinder ahead of the brake fluid reservoir (this is the one that shuts off your cruse control when the brake pedal is pushed)? Are you sure your indicator light isn't burned out? If you were looking at the first recall list posted on my thread, that list has since been expanded as shown here.

Vehicle Make / Model: Model Year(s):
FORD / CLUB WAGON 1994-1996
FORD / E-150 1994-1996
FORD / E-250 1994-1996
FORD / E-350 1994-1996
FORD / E-450 1996-2002
FORD / ECONOLINE 1994-1996
FORD / EXCURSION 2000-2002
FORD / EXPLORER 1998
FORD / F-250 1994-2002
FORD / F-350 1994-2002
FORD / F-450 SD 1994-2002
FORD / F-550 SD 1994-2002
FORD / MOUNTAINEER 1998
NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 06V286000
Summary:
ON CERTAIN TRUCKS EQUIPPED WITH SPEED CONTROL, GASOLINE OR NATURAL GAS ENGINES, THE SPEED CONTROL DEACTIVATION SWITCH MAY OVERHEAT.
Consequence:
OVERHEATING COULD RESULT IN SMOKE OR BURN AND AN UNDERHOOD FIRE.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL INSTALL A FUSED WIRING HARNESS INTO THE SPEED CONTROL SYSTEM FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON AUGUST 7, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT FORD AT 1-866-436-7332. (NOTE: ALSO SEE RECALLS 05V017 AND 05V388)
Notes:
FORD RECALL NO. 05S28. CUSTOMERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV.
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When i changed the cutout switch, the harness that was on there looks to be the the one installed after it was recalled... i.e. it was the harness with the circuit breaker on the end, not the old one prior to recall (so what I'm trying to say is it looks like the prior owner took it in and had the recalled harness replaced )

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Originally Posted by jasondinsmoore
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When i changed the cutout switch, the harness that was on there looks to be the the one installed after it was recalled... i.e. it was the harness with the circuit breaker on the end, not the old one prior to recall (so what I'm trying to say is it looks like the prior owner took it in and had the recalled harness replaced )

Thanks again
The recall harness has a fuse in it, did you check this fuse ? FYI, the brake light switch above the brake pedal only controls your shift interlock and brake lights and has nothing to do with your cruse control.
 
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by madsonp
The recall harness has a fuse in it, did you check this fuse ? FYI, the brake light switch above the brake pedal only controls your shift interlock and brake lights and has nothing to do with your cruse control.
Both fuses look good.

Someone said the GEM, but I doubt that simply because all my other electrical works fine (save for power locks but the actuators are bad... they have juice just not enough to lock/unlock and i'm in the midst of the "fix" on those right now)

Its got me completely baffled. Gosh I wish i was good with electric crap. I'd hook a meter up to that sucker and find it, but I'm just not good with it at all.
 
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Originally Posted by jasondinsmoore
Both fuses look good.

Someone said the GEM, but I doubt that simply because all my other electrical works fine (save for power locks but the actuators are bad... they have juice just not enough to lock/unlock and i'm in the midst of the "fix" on those right now)

Its got me completely baffled. Gosh I wish i was good with electric crap. I'd hook a meter up to that sucker and find it, but I'm just not good with it at all.
Well, those were my ideas on what to check. Maybe someone else will step up with some other ideas.
 
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I know it sounds crazy but I found on here the same thing with a guy's 2000. He said he found a wiring diagram somewhere that said the third brake light in in the cruise circuit somewhere. He found his third brake light was blown, replaced and good to go. I know this worked for my dad's 2000 also about a year ago. I know it sounds crazy but it is worth a shot.
 
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Sounds like a possible VSS(Vehicle Speed Sensor) issue, as you also said your ABS light is on. Not sure why the light wouldn't work though...I know 99's didn't have an indicator wired into the gauge cluster.


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That makes no sense at all. trying to fix a cruise control issue while a brake warning indicator is staring you in the face.

Yes, your cruise control issue is related to the ABS light, which is probably caused by the VSS sensor. Clean the VSS, which is located on the top of the rear differential, and see if that doesn't help.
 
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Try checking above pedals to make sure nothing is contacting the brake pedal, especially if you have adjustable brakes, check all the way out and in. Cruise is very sensitive, if anything is touching brake arm it will cancel/prevent cruise from being set.
 
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Jason....sent you a PM with link to a website that has a diagram for the cruise control circuit....maybe it will help you...
 


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