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Old 09-10-2012, 08:31 PM
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1973 Condor II motorhome

Hey FTE......I'm eyeballing an old Ford motorhome. It's a 1973 Condor II, and it runs/drives. It's got some damage to the inside at the rear, but the appliances, and such all are in working order. I'm awaiting more pictures, but I do have one that the guy sent me. It has a 390, and C-6, and is pretty good looking shape from the outside. It appears to be complete. It comes with a generator, and numerous other items as well. The idea, is to use it with my '53 F-750. I think that a 390 powered motorhome will be too much of a gas hog, and too much of a head ache to bother using as a motorhome by itself. My '53, has the Detroit in it, and a 9 speed. I'm wanting to go with a custom oversized sleeper on the '53, and build two, or three custom slides into it. I think the Condor II would be a perfect donor. Anyone know much about these, and if there are any sources to sell good parts? I'd hate to pull it apart, and be forced to scrap things I don't think should be scrapped.

 
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Condor motor home

yes, there is a place called PPL RV out of Texas
Used RVs for Sale - PPL Motor Homes
and others, i believe they buy used gear
 
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yes, there is a place called PPL RV out of Texas
Used RVs for Sale - PPL Motor Homes
and others, i believe they buy used gear
Thanks for that info. I'll check it out.
 
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Condor is not a Ford motor home, it uses some Ford components. Rolling chassis, powertrain same as P500 (P Series Parcel Delivery) thru 1976. 1968/76's were available with 240 (thru 1974) & 300 I-6's, 360 2V's.

On sale day, 360's magically become 390's! Verify the 390 by measuring its stroke: 360 = 3.50" / 390 = 3.78."

1973/76: Ford offered their own M450/500 series motor homes. Were available with 390's/460's, C6's.
 
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According to what info I can find on the internet, through RV sources, and others, Ford debuted its factory built motorhome at the New York auto show in 1962. According to a post, by you:

"Thru 1972, all Condor's were built on the P Series Parcel Delivery chassis. There were three chassis: P350, P400, P500.

In 1973, Ford came out with their own factory built Motor Home, assembled at the Louisville KY plant.

The Ford Motor Home was built on two different M Series chassis: M450 & M500."

Either way, it is doesn't matter to me. It's on a Ford chassis, is primarily comprised of Ford parts, and, one has to say "Ford" in order to get the right parts for it. Personally, it's a Ford.
 
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According to what info I can find on the internet, through RV sources, and others, Ford debuted its factory built motorhome at the New York auto show in 1962. According to a post, by you:

"Thru 1976, all Condor's were built on the P Series Parcel Delivery chassis. There were three chassis: P350, P400, P500.

In 1973, Ford came out with their own factory built Motor Home, assembled at the Louisville KY plant.

The Ford Motor Home was built on two different M Series chassis: M450 & M500."

Either way, it is doesn't matter to me. It's on a Ford chassis, is primarily comprised of Ford parts, and, one has to say "Ford" in order to get the right parts for it. Personally, it's a Ford.
Look in the 1957/63, 1964/72 Ford truck parts catalogs. See if you can find ONE reference to a Ford or Condor motor home. Lotsa luck, cuz there isn't one.

The 1973/79 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog lists all the M Series parts and the factory Ford camper shell and slide in the bed over the roof camper parts. All are illustrated, all the part numbers are listed including the toilet part numbers.
 
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Not going to argue about it, and I really DON'T CARE. It's primarily Ford, and was built, according to engineering information about Condor Coach, for Ford, with Ford parts, and through the designs of Ford. It's just like the early "Body by Fisher" plates. You still call them whatever brand they were, and you don't refer to them as Fishers. Again, I don't care about Ford part number this, or Ford book that. I asked about the Condor, beings as this the Ford Truck Enthusiasts forum, and the Condor II is primarily a Ford vehicle. That being said, thank you once again oh wise and all knowing one, for once again showing me why I really don't like coming to FTE anymore, because EVERYONE KNOWS EVERYTHING.
 
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When you need parts for this Condor, who has the parts catalog and the sources to look for the P Series obsolete parts?

I do and when the time comes, will be happy to assist you. The thing is, I'm not being argumentative, I'm just trying to point out what is what.

It takes time and effort to do this jazz and I do it for free. What other Ford related website has this info?

Fisher body, very familiar as my family were Olds dealers for 80 years. Original GM building in Detroit was originally named the Fisher Building.
 
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If you buy it and decide to part it out, it probably has the 19.5s with 5 lug x 8" pattern that many here look for to replace their old two part wheels. Plus it probably has a D-70 axle that someone will want. Probably a 4.56 gear like the one I have. And I've heard a guy say that the front axles on this era motor home have disc brakes and might mount to the front of one of our old rigs without heroic custom engineering and steering modifications. We'd benefit hearing more on that aspect if you tackle this. Stu
 
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If you buy it and decide to part it out, it probably has the 19.5s with 5 lug x 8" pattern that many here look for to replace their old two part wheels. Plus it probably has a D-70 axle that someone will want. Probably a 4.56 gear like the one I have. And I've heard a guy say that the front axles on this era motor home have disc brakes and might mount to the front of one of our old rigs without heroic custom engineering and steering modifications. We'd benefit hearing more on that aspect if you tackle this. Stu
The input I was actually seeking. I believe it's a drum brake front end, but I'll investigate further. I'll have to check if it has the 5 or 6 lug wheels. For me, I'm not interested in any way, shape, or form of restoring it, and have no desire for anything other than the outer skin, the generator, and the motorhome specific items. I may take a section of frame from the very rear, but I've not decided yet. If there is no interest in drive train parts, then they'll go to scrap, but I'm all for informing FTE members that would have any sort of interest before sending things to crush.
 
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I was reading this old post, I'm looking for a front axle with disc brakes, anyone have one for sale??
 
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Hereís a whole disc brake front axle now on eBay. If you donít want the whole axle and would would want to try the swap using the stock spindles I have a pair of the hubs/rotors/calipers I had pulled from a similar motor home a few years ago and didnít use. Stu

https://m.ebay.com/itm/1976-DODGE-5-...53.m1438.l2649
 
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Quick question? What is the distance between leaf springs, center to center. This will fit a Ford?
 
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Sorry. one more question, how wide were the leaf springs?
 
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Don’t know the answer to either question. My pair were torched off the axle. It’s a question for the eBay seller. Stu
 
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