Towing 37ft toy hauler with lifted truck

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 09-11-2012, 12:21 AM
blue turd's Avatar
blue turd
blue turd is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Towing 37ft toy hauler with lifted truck

Have an 08 f-250 with 6 inch lift on 35's and plan on towing a sandpiper 37sp toy hauler 16k load on tandem axle. Truck has air bags and 3:73 gears. Guy gave me 24k Valley slider hitch but thinking about getting a 18k superglide slider. I don't think truck can even get under trailer without flipping axles on toy hauler first. Anyone running have a setup similar to mine? Not sure if superglide hitch is as tall as Valley manual slider. Superglide does offer a 3 inch lift kit for slider. Look forward to hearing back and seeing who else tows with lifted truck
 
  #2  
Old 09-11-2012, 11:05 AM
BeerCan500's Avatar
BeerCan500
BeerCan500 is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Ft. Worth
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Good Luck!

Originally Posted by blue turd
Have an 08 f-250 with 6 inch lift on 35's and plan on towing a sandpiper 37sp toy hauler 16k load on tandem axle. Truck has air bags and 3:73 gears. Guy gave me 24k Valley slider hitch but thinking about getting a 18k superglide slider. I don't think truck can even get under trailer without flipping axles on toy hauler first. Anyone running have a setup similar to mine? Not sure if superglide hitch is as tall as Valley manual slider. Superglide does offer a 3 inch lift kit for slider. Look forward to hearing back and seeing who else tows with lifted truck
Not to be mean and ugly, but I would not tow a 16k trailer of any kind with a F-250 nor would I tow anything with a truck lifted that high or tow a trailer with "flipped axles". For me...what you want to do sounds and in my 30 years of towing minds eye...appears to be much to dangerous for a coward like me...Again...not trying to be mean or anything, it's just not something I would do.

Good luck and God Bless...

BeerCan500
 
  #3  
Old 09-11-2012, 12:39 PM
r2millers's Avatar
r2millers
r2millers is offline
Postmaster

Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Southern Cal
Posts: 3,472
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The truck GCWR is approx 23,000 depending on if srw, rear end gearing, etc. It weighs approx 8,800 so with the max wt of 16,000 trailer, you can haul about 14,200 #'s. or 1800#'s less than max.
A raised truck and possibly flipping the axles does change things as beercan noted, however, that F-250 is not a bad choice for pulling if taken the necessary cautions with the height issue.
 
  #4  
Old 09-11-2012, 01:05 PM
thomabb's Avatar
thomabb
thomabb is offline
Cargo Master
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,398
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Flipping the axles won't gain you enough. My camper's axles were flipped when I bought it (it's an '86) and it rides level when coupled to the truck in my sig. The overhang runs parallel to the bed rails with about 10-12" clearance. You are easily 8" higher than stock. You are probably going to have to lift the trailer, or haul nose high. Neither option is very favorable.
 
  #5  
Old 09-11-2012, 06:11 PM
jdadamsjr's Avatar
jdadamsjr
jdadamsjr is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 11,314
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
My guess ?
your rear axle weight will be 2000 lb over your rear gawr....
and with that pin wgt you will beover your truck's gvwr ....

yes, you'll be ok on gcwr, but the devil is in the details
 
  #6  
Old 09-11-2012, 10:53 PM
blue turd's Avatar
blue turd
blue turd is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I measured distance from hitch to ground then measured trailer sitting level from kingpin to ground. Looks truck is 4.5 inches taller when trailer is sitting level. I am thinkinging I will gain 4 inches by flipping axles. Truck will have a little squat prob when loaded. I have air bags in rear. I think pin weight of trailer is 2050 lbs

I measured my hitch height which was 15.5 and measured distance from kingpin to bottom of 5 th wheel overhang at have 12.5 inches. That equals 28 inches. Measured top of bed rail to bottom of bed and measured 20 inches. That should give me 8 inches of clearance between trailer and bed. For those running superglider they offer 3 inch lift rails if you need more clearance.

Wish trailer was a triple axle. Tires are $365 a piece for Goodyear 235/85R16/G

I was thinking about buying a TPMS for trailer tires. Anyone have any experience running one on tires at 110 psi?

Looking at system from Dill for $239.00

Dill High-pressure Retro-fit Trailer Tire Pressure Monitor

I know ideally I should have a stock F-350 dually. Most trips will be 2-3 hours going camping or to sand dunes.

Appreciate all the feedback and advice. Pretty sure truck will have enough power to pull. Hope it stops well. Surprised no lifted trucks have chummed in. There are a bunch in AZ and CALI
 
  #7  
Old 09-12-2012, 06:23 AM
mistakenID's Avatar
mistakenID
mistakenID is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: West Valley Utah
Posts: 1,627
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You need to measure from the ground to the truck bed then add the 15.5 inches of hitch height. That will be how high the pin on the 5th wheel is going to sit.

I think you're going to need more than an axle flip!
 
  #8  
Old 09-12-2012, 07:42 PM
garmford's Avatar
garmford
garmford is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have a stock f-250 c/c long box and a 36' fifth wheel with a 2000 lb pin weight. I added airbags just to even out the truck and it helped a lot. I have the 6.0 and it pulls that camper very well. I don't know too much about lift kits but there are cheap ones and heavy duty ones. Which one do you have? Are ypur 35" truck tires rated for that kind of load?
 
  #9  
Old 09-12-2012, 11:21 PM
blue turd's Avatar
blue turd
blue turd is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It's got a Pro Comp lift lift with Toyo mud terrain tires. Tires are a E rated 10 ply rated for 3200 lbs.
 
  #10  
Old 09-17-2012, 10:14 AM
sdsd's Avatar
sdsd
sdsd is offline
Junior User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
re: TPMS

I use the Hawkshead TPMS on my truck and trailer tires. Have been using it for 3 yrs or so with no issues other than a couple of sensors acting up. Check them out. They have units that go over 200 psi if I recall correctly. I use the external button sensors so I can simply move them between wheels when I rotate wheels, etc.

Just a couple of days ago while towing up by Johnson Valley I got a leak indication on the trailer. Every time I looked at the monitor the right rear tire had lost another psi pr two. Pulled over at the first safe spot. Was down 15 psi to 65 by then. Tread had pulled loose about a third of the way around. Not the first time TPMS has alerted me to a bad tire, allowing me to pull over in a safe spot and likely saving me $$ from damages. Definitely a believer in TPMS!
 
  #11  
Old 09-17-2012, 10:35 PM
blue turd's Avatar
blue turd
blue turd is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by sdsd
I use the Hawkshead TPMS on my truck and trailer tires. Have been using it for 3 yrs or so with no issues other than a couple of sensors acting up. Check them out. They have units that go over 200 psi if I recall correctly. I use the external button sensors so I can simply move them between wheels when I rotate wheels, etc.

Just a couple of days ago while towing up by Johnson Valley I got a leak indication on the trailer. Every time I looked at the monitor the right rear tire had lost another psi <acronym title="Page Ranking">pr</acronym> two. Pulled over at the first safe spot. Was down 15 psi to 65 by then. Tread had pulled loose about a third of the way around. Not the first time TPMS has alerted me to a bad tire, allowing me to pull over in a safe spot and likely saving me $$ from damages. Definitely a believer in TPMS!
Thanks for sharing your experience. Like you said cheap insurance
 
  #12  
Old 09-17-2012, 11:34 PM
blue turd's Avatar
blue turd
blue turd is offline
Senior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well finally got my superglide installed today. Ordered superglide with super rails and discovered cant use super rails with my air bags. Ended up going with a superglide hitch that uses standard 5th wheel rails. Hope to pick toy hauler up Wednesday then flip axles and get new tires installed. Hope this thing tows nice
 
  #13  
Old 09-18-2012, 10:02 AM
drey04's Avatar
drey04
drey04 is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Midland, MI
Posts: 1,467
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Good deal, be sure to post pics of the whole rig when its complete
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
loghomeman
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
18
12-29-2015 05:54 PM
crazer42
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
3
06-17-2009 01:29 PM
sandiegogreg
Toy Hauler Towing; Fifth Wheel & Bumper Pull
6
02-10-2005 02:38 PM
dslavy
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
4
02-06-2005 01:05 PM
TrueBlueV10
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
6
03-19-2003 09:14 PM



Quick Reply: Towing 37ft toy hauler with lifted truck



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:13 AM.