79 auto tilt column, upper bearings
#1
79 auto tilt column, upper bearings
Been a long time since I posted, but here goes.
Found these threads
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ng-column.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...r-bearing.html
From these threads,
F23Z3517B.. LOWER Steering Column Bearing / F23Z3517B replaced: E1FZ3517B & C7SZ3517D.
MSRP: $17.98 // FTE sponsor Y2KFORDPARTS.COM price: $12.95 / Y2K = MILLENNIUM FORD in Seattle (Burien) WA
Fits: 1973/79 F100/250 4WD // 1978/79 Bronco // ALSO used as the upper steering column bearing on 1978/79 F100/350's with tilt wheel.
--------------
Lower bearing goes to D4AZ-3D651-A = tilt wheel LOWER flange. Is this what U mean by the lower housing??
Bearings: C7SZ-3517-C .. Upper / E1FZ-3517-B .. Lower = replaces C7SZ-3517-D.
---------------
D4AZ3D651A .. Lower Flange, Use with Tilt Wheel -Obsolete- I haven't looked around for this yet...
C7SZ3517C .. Upper Bearing / MSRP: $39.98 / ftepartsguy.com: $28.79
E1FZ3517B .. Lower Bearing / MSRP: $10.37 / ftepartguy.com price: $7.78
--------------
First part says "F23Z3517B replaced: E1FZ3517B" and "it is ALSO used as the upper steering column bearing on 1978/79 F100/350's with tilt wheel."
Second part says "E1FZ3517B .. Lower Bearing" which we know from above was replaced by F23Z3517B, but one calls it upper, one calls it lower.
Finally, C7SZ3517C is supposed to be the upper tilt bearing, which is the smaller of the two, but it is 4 times the price (curious since most times larger bearings are more money).
Just looking for clarification on part numbers and which bearing is which, for the two bearings in the upper part of tilt wheel.
Found these threads
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ng-column.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...r-bearing.html
From these threads,
F23Z3517B.. LOWER Steering Column Bearing / F23Z3517B replaced: E1FZ3517B & C7SZ3517D.
MSRP: $17.98 // FTE sponsor Y2KFORDPARTS.COM price: $12.95 / Y2K = MILLENNIUM FORD in Seattle (Burien) WA
Fits: 1973/79 F100/250 4WD // 1978/79 Bronco // ALSO used as the upper steering column bearing on 1978/79 F100/350's with tilt wheel.
--------------
Lower bearing goes to D4AZ-3D651-A = tilt wheel LOWER flange. Is this what U mean by the lower housing??
Bearings: C7SZ-3517-C .. Upper / E1FZ-3517-B .. Lower = replaces C7SZ-3517-D.
---------------
D4AZ3D651A .. Lower Flange, Use with Tilt Wheel -Obsolete- I haven't looked around for this yet...
C7SZ3517C .. Upper Bearing / MSRP: $39.98 / ftepartsguy.com: $28.79
E1FZ3517B .. Lower Bearing / MSRP: $10.37 / ftepartguy.com price: $7.78
--------------
First part says "F23Z3517B replaced: E1FZ3517B" and "it is ALSO used as the upper steering column bearing on 1978/79 F100/350's with tilt wheel."
Second part says "E1FZ3517B .. Lower Bearing" which we know from above was replaced by F23Z3517B, but one calls it upper, one calls it lower.
Finally, C7SZ3517C is supposed to be the upper tilt bearing, which is the smaller of the two, but it is 4 times the price (curious since most times larger bearings are more money).
Just looking for clarification on part numbers and which bearing is which, for the two bearings in the upper part of tilt wheel.
#2
#3
1978/79 Tilt Steering Wheel Upper/Lower Steering Column Bearings
1978/79 F100/350, Bronco & Econoline with a Tilt Wheel / 2WD/4WD; A/T or M/T makes no difference.
C7SZ-3517-C .. UPPER Steering Column Bearing / Available from Ford
MSRP: $23.48 // FTE Ford Dealer Parts Dept sponsor tousleyfordparts.com price: $15.50.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
F23Z-3517-B (replaced E1FZ-3517-B & C7SZ-3517-D) .. LOWER Steering Column Bearing / Available from Ford.
MSRP: $19.97 // tousleyfordparts.com price: $13.18 / Tousley Ford: White Bear Lake MN
The quoted threads are several years old. The prices have changed and Millennium Ford (y2kford parts) is no longer in business, closed several years ago.
C7SZ-3517-C .. UPPER Steering Column Bearing / Available from Ford
MSRP: $23.48 // FTE Ford Dealer Parts Dept sponsor tousleyfordparts.com price: $15.50.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
F23Z-3517-B (replaced E1FZ-3517-B & C7SZ-3517-D) .. LOWER Steering Column Bearing / Available from Ford.
MSRP: $19.97 // tousleyfordparts.com price: $13.18 / Tousley Ford: White Bear Lake MN
The quoted threads are several years old. The prices have changed and Millennium Ford (y2kford parts) is no longer in business, closed several years ago.
#4
1978/79 F100/350, Bronco & Econoline with a Tilt Wheel / 2WD/4WD; A/T or M/T makes no difference.
C7SZ-3517-C .. UPPER Steering Column Bearing / Available from Ford
MSRP: $23.48 // FTE Ford Dealer Parts Dept sponsor tousleyfordparts.com price: $15.50.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
F23Z-3517-B (replaced E1FZ-3517-B & C7SZ-3517-D) .. LOWER Steering Column Bearing / Available from Ford.
MSRP: $19.97 // tousleyfordparts.com price: $13.18 / Tousley Ford: White Bear Lake MN
The quoted threads are several years old. The prices have changed and Millennium Ford (y2kford parts) is no longer in business, closed several years ago.
C7SZ-3517-C .. UPPER Steering Column Bearing / Available from Ford
MSRP: $23.48 // FTE Ford Dealer Parts Dept sponsor tousleyfordparts.com price: $15.50.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
F23Z-3517-B (replaced E1FZ-3517-B & C7SZ-3517-D) .. LOWER Steering Column Bearing / Available from Ford.
MSRP: $19.97 // tousleyfordparts.com price: $13.18 / Tousley Ford: White Bear Lake MN
The quoted threads are several years old. The prices have changed and Millennium Ford (y2kford parts) is no longer in business, closed several years ago.
Are you planning on rebuilding your column?
If so could you do a step by step? i have a tilt that has to much movement where it tilts, and i would like to get it fixed.
The only thing stopping me from doing so, is that i heard its a real pita to put the column back together.
If so could you do a step by step? i have a tilt that has to much movement where it tilts, and i would like to get it fixed.
The only thing stopping me from doing so, is that i heard its a real pita to put the column back together.
1979 Ford Bronco Steering column repairs pictures, videos, and sounds | SuperMotors.net
#5
OK, ordered the bearings, thanks. One of the bearings was a bit worn, but it seems the bulk of the play is in the upper tilt flange and pivot pins.
One side seems substantially more worn than the other and either pin is only real loose on the one side of flange, so I don't think it is the pins that are worn (plus pins are steel, flange is alum). Looked @ Bronco GY and Dennis Carpenter for the flange, but no luck. Probably no longer available, but if you get a chance, can you get me PN's for the flange and pins?
My other thoughts if flange is not available were to
a. knurl the ID of flange
b. rough up the edges of pins
and/or
c. use an epoxy on pins like this.
3M Automix Panel Bonding Adhesive, 08115, 200 mL cartridge-Shop 3M
Thanks again
One side seems substantially more worn than the other and either pin is only real loose on the one side of flange, so I don't think it is the pins that are worn (plus pins are steel, flange is alum). Looked @ Bronco GY and Dennis Carpenter for the flange, but no luck. Probably no longer available, but if you get a chance, can you get me PN's for the flange and pins?
My other thoughts if flange is not available were to
a. knurl the ID of flange
b. rough up the edges of pins
and/or
c. use an epoxy on pins like this.
3M Automix Panel Bonding Adhesive, 08115, 200 mL cartridge-Shop 3M
Thanks again
#6
ALL 1970/79 (and etc) FoMoCo vehicles with a Tilt Steering Column.
DOAZ-3D655-A .. Tilt Steering Column Positioning Spring / Obsolete
ROCKBRIDGE FORD in Lexington VA has 1 = 877-999-1998.
HASELDEN BROTHERS in Hemingway SC has 1 = 843-558-2134.
CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 26 = 800-476-9653.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
2) DOAZ-3D739-A .. Tilt Steering Column Pivot Pin / Available from Ford (Memphis TN Ford Parts Depot has 9 only).
MSRP each: $25.17 / tousleyfordparts.com price each: $16.61.
Over 100 more available from Ford Dealers.
===========================
1978/79 F100/350, Bronco & Econoline // 1974/78 LTD/Mercury Marquis / 1974/79 Thunderbird/Cougar/Torino/Ranchero/Mark IV & V / 1976/80 Granada/Monarch/Versailles / 1977/79 LTD II (not an LTD!).
D4AZ-3D651-A .. Tilt Steering Column Flange ~ "Flange (Steering Column Tube Lower)" / Obsolete
CROSSETT FORD in Crossett AR has 1 = 870-364-2162.
KINSEL L/M in Beaumont TX has 3 = 800-816-2894.
DOAZ-3D655-A .. Tilt Steering Column Positioning Spring / Obsolete
ROCKBRIDGE FORD in Lexington VA has 1 = 877-999-1998.
HASELDEN BROTHERS in Hemingway SC has 1 = 843-558-2134.
CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 26 = 800-476-9653.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
2) DOAZ-3D739-A .. Tilt Steering Column Pivot Pin / Available from Ford (Memphis TN Ford Parts Depot has 9 only).
MSRP each: $25.17 / tousleyfordparts.com price each: $16.61.
Over 100 more available from Ford Dealers.
===========================
1978/79 F100/350, Bronco & Econoline // 1974/78 LTD/Mercury Marquis / 1974/79 Thunderbird/Cougar/Torino/Ranchero/Mark IV & V / 1976/80 Granada/Monarch/Versailles / 1977/79 LTD II (not an LTD!).
D4AZ-3D651-A .. Tilt Steering Column Flange ~ "Flange (Steering Column Tube Lower)" / Obsolete
CROSSETT FORD in Crossett AR has 1 = 870-364-2162.
KINSEL L/M in Beaumont TX has 3 = 800-816-2894.
#7
All 1970/79 (and etc) FoMoCo vehicles with a tilt steering column.
DOAZ-3D655-A .. Tilt Steering Column Positioning Spring / Obsolete
ROCKBRIDGE FORD in Lexington VA has 1 = 877-999-1998.
HASELDEN BROTHERS in Hemingway SC has 1 = 843-558-2134.
CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 26 = 800-476-9653.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
2) DOAZ-3D739-A .. Tilt Steering Column Pivot Pin / Available from Ford (Memphis TN Ford Parts Depot has 9 only).
MSRP each: $25.17 / tousleyfordparts.com price each: $16.61.
Over 100 more available from Ford Dealers.
DOAZ-3D655-A .. Tilt Steering Column Positioning Spring / Obsolete
ROCKBRIDGE FORD in Lexington VA has 1 = 877-999-1998.
HASELDEN BROTHERS in Hemingway SC has 1 = 843-558-2134.
CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 26 = 800-476-9653.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
2) DOAZ-3D739-A .. Tilt Steering Column Pivot Pin / Available from Ford (Memphis TN Ford Parts Depot has 9 only).
MSRP each: $25.17 / tousleyfordparts.com price each: $16.61.
Over 100 more available from Ford Dealers.
The tilt positioning spring is fine though.
I was looking for the (aluminum) upper tilt flange shown in pic above.
At least that is what ford calls it in the manual
1979 Ford Bronco Steering column repairs picture | SuperMotors.net
Trending Topics
#8
See post 6, I edited the puppy in plus its gazillion applications.
What manual might that be? Parts catalog sez: Flange (Steering Column Tube Lower).
1973/79 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog available on a CD from hipoparts.com.
1973/79 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog available on a CD from hipoparts.com.
#9
and of course there is also an "upper flange" . Lot of "flanges" going on there
The truck repair manual calls the lower plastic encased bearing a "cap", go figure........
That is what you said the parts manual calls a "Flange (Steering Column Tube Lower)", yes?
Thanks for the link to the CD parts manual, got one on order.........
#10
OK, got the parts CD, 73-79 Ford truck Series 100/500.
Under the illustrations, section 35, Page 27 lists
Steering column with A/T- Tilt Wheel
1978 E100/350.
Part in question yields number 3511
Crossing over to the text only section yields
PN D5AZ-3511-B, FLANGE (STEERING COLUMN TUBE)
for 78 E100/350 w/ tilt wheel
Searched on that PN and came up with this thread from 2008.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ng-column.html
Seems it was obsolete and not available from any source back in 2008, so
probably not available now. But if you could take a quick look on that PN
again for me, would appreciate it.
Under the illustrations, section 35, Page 27 lists
Steering column with A/T- Tilt Wheel
1978 E100/350.
Part in question yields number 3511
Crossing over to the text only section yields
PN D5AZ-3511-B, FLANGE (STEERING COLUMN TUBE)
for 78 E100/350 w/ tilt wheel
Searched on that PN and came up with this thread from 2008.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ng-column.html
Seems it was obsolete and not available from any source back in 2008, so
probably not available now. But if you could take a quick look on that PN
again for me, would appreciate it.
#11
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Santa Cruz Mountains
Posts: 1,423
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
The pro's at finding parts will produce better data but a google search with that part number came up with this link.
D5AZ-3511-B | RearCounter.com | 4 found at 2 sellers
I would think LMC or others would have these also.
.
D5AZ-3511-B | RearCounter.com | 4 found at 2 sellers
I would think LMC or others would have these also.
.
#13
The pro's at finding parts will produce better data but a google search with that part number came up with this link.
D5AZ-3511-B | RearCounter.com | 4 found at 2 sellers
I would think LMC or others would have these also.
.
D5AZ-3511-B | RearCounter.com | 4 found at 2 sellers
I would think LMC or others would have these also.
.
price requests in to both vendors.
Course ND seems to usually find the cheapest price too, if avail from any dealer.
No go on LMC, would be the shaded part between numbers 10 and 11
http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/fc/full.aspx?Page=49
LMC, MAC's and JBG all seem to have the same parts and are missing the same parts
(in tilt steering assemblies anyway). Must all have access to the same vendors and/or
the same old stock.
#14
OK, got the parts CD, 1973/79 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog ~ Series 100/500.
Steering column with A/T- Tilt Wheel / Part in question yields number 3511
Crossing over to the text only section yields: D5AZ-3511-B FLANGE (STEERING COLUMN TUBE) for 1978/79 E100/350 w/ tilt wheel
Note: There's also D5AZ-3511-A = It is not the same!
Steering column with A/T- Tilt Wheel / Part in question yields number 3511
Crossing over to the text only section yields: D5AZ-3511-B FLANGE (STEERING COLUMN TUBE) for 1978/79 E100/350 w/ tilt wheel
Note: There's also D5AZ-3511-A = It is not the same!
D5AZ-3511-B (replaced DOAZ-3511-B & D, D1AZ-3511-A) .. Flange-Use with Tilt Wheel / Obsolete
Applications: 1978/79 F100/350, Econoline & Bronco // 1970/78 Galaxie/LTD/Mercury Marquis / 1970/79 Lincoln Town Car / 1975/76 Torino/Ranchero/Montego/Cougar.
1976/80 Granada/Monarch/Versailles / 1977/79 LTD II (not an LTD!)/Thunderbird/Cougar/Ranchero/Continental Mark V.
MUSTANG'S ETC in Van Nuys CA has 2 = 818-787-7634.
No one has DOAZ-3511-B or D / D1AZ-3511-A = listed on nosfordltd.com, new obsolete parts search website.
btw: 1966/79 Bronco parts are listed in the 1965/72 & 1973/79 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalogs.
#15
You've missed the 1978/79 F100/350 applications, scroll the page down a bit.
D5AZ-3511-B (replaced DOAZ-3511-B & D, D1AZ-3511-A) .. Flange-Use with Tilt Wheel / Obsolete
Applications: 1978/79 F100/350, Econoline & Bronco // 1970/78 Galaxie/LTD/Mercury Marquis / 1970/79 Lincoln Town Car / 1975/76 Torino/Ranchero/Montego/Cougar.
1976/80 Granada/Monarch/Versailles / 1977/79 LTD II (not an LTD!)/Thunderbird/Cougar/Ranchero/Continental Mark V.
MUSTANG'S ETC in Van Nuys CA has 2 = 818-787-7634.
No one has DOAZ-3511-B or D / D1AZ-3511-A = listed on nosfordltd.com, new obsolete parts search website.
btw: 1966/79 Bronco parts are listed in the 1965/72 & 1973/79 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalogs.
D5AZ-3511-B (replaced DOAZ-3511-B & D, D1AZ-3511-A) .. Flange-Use with Tilt Wheel / Obsolete
Applications: 1978/79 F100/350, Econoline & Bronco // 1970/78 Galaxie/LTD/Mercury Marquis / 1970/79 Lincoln Town Car / 1975/76 Torino/Ranchero/Montego/Cougar.
1976/80 Granada/Monarch/Versailles / 1977/79 LTD II (not an LTD!)/Thunderbird/Cougar/Ranchero/Continental Mark V.
MUSTANG'S ETC in Van Nuys CA has 2 = 818-787-7634.
No one has DOAZ-3511-B or D / D1AZ-3511-A = listed on nosfordltd.com, new obsolete parts search website.
btw: 1966/79 Bronco parts are listed in the 1965/72 & 1973/79 Ford Passenger Car Parts Catalogs.
Guess I should have guessed that on the car parts manual, as my registration for all my broncs has always been "wagon". Probably order the car parts manual too, heck they are cheap enough.