The 6.4L and B6-20 biodiesel
#46
#47
hmm..
Well seems Ford wonders if you use Bio-Willie also..
From Personalized Vehicle Owner Information
"Tell us about your driving habits so we can better estimate your maintenance schedule".
Option # 4
"Use of Biodiesel fuel up to and including 5% (B5)"
From Personalized Vehicle Owner Information
"Tell us about your driving habits so we can better estimate your maintenance schedule".
Option # 4
"Use of Biodiesel fuel up to and including 5% (B5)"
#49
Using B20
I just took a 3000 plus mileage trip towing my 27’ traveltrailer. Went from New Jersey to Oklahoma, then down to Texas and back via Tennessee. Had to use B-20 or what ever the mix was afew time, did notice my temp a little higher and fuel MPG down. Also noticedthat my exhaust system was cleaning it self more. Other than that, it ran like a kitten. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
#50
Awhile back I was running 100 percent Bio diesel, at the time was making my own probable ran over a 1000 gals thru my truck and over 2500 gals thru my cat equipment with no bad effects. The only issue we had was fuel filters. We went thru a large amount of filters when I first started using it. I believe it was the solvent characteristic of the fuel cleaning the systems out. After a month the filter issue went away. At the time I was tuned and had the DPF off so it’s not a good comparison for someone looking to do this with a stock truck. Hers some info
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...e-on-b100.html
My business was slow and i had time to collect oil and make it, as soon as work picked up i just didnt have the time to mess with it. One of those deals where at the time i had more time then money and it was well worth it.
<style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Cambria; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:auto; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:3 0 0 0 1 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ascii-font-family:Cambria; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:Cambria; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Cambria; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> Truck has over a 100,000 miles now and haven’t had one fuel system issue, and my wife accidently put 15 gals of gas in the truck once drove 20 miles and called me saying the truck sounded funny.........I was probably lucky but at any rate I have had very good luck with the fuel system and have had zero of the issue hovering around the alleged fragile fuel system many claim the 6.4 to have.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...e-on-b100.html
My business was slow and i had time to collect oil and make it, as soon as work picked up i just didnt have the time to mess with it. One of those deals where at the time i had more time then money and it was well worth it.
<style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Cambria; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:auto; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:3 0 0 0 1 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ascii-font-family:Cambria; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:Cambria; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Cambria; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> Truck has over a 100,000 miles now and haven’t had one fuel system issue, and my wife accidently put 15 gals of gas in the truck once drove 20 miles and called me saying the truck sounded funny.........I was probably lucky but at any rate I have had very good luck with the fuel system and have had zero of the issue hovering around the alleged fragile fuel system many claim the 6.4 to have.
#51
Awhile back I was running 100 percent Bio diesel, at the time was making my own probable ran over a 1000 gals thru my truck and over 2500 gals thru my cat equipment with no bad effects. The only issue we had was fuel filters. We went thru a large amount of filters when I first started using it. I believe it was the solvent characteristic of the fuel cleaning the systems out. After a month the filter issue went away. At the time I was tuned and had the DPF off so it’s not a good comparison for someone looking to do this with a stock truck. Hers some info
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...e-on-b100.html
My business was slow and i had time to collect oil and make it, as soon as work picked up i just didnt have the time to mess with it. One of those deals where at the time i had more time then money and it was well worth it.
<style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Cambria; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:auto; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:3 0 0 0 1 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ascii-font-family:Cambria; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:Cambria; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Cambria; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> Truck has over a 100,000 miles now and haven’t had one fuel system issue, and my wife accidently put 15 gals of gas in the truck once drove 20 miles and called me saying the truck sounded funny.........I was probably lucky but at any rate I have had very good luck with the fuel system and have had zero of the issue hovering around the alleged fragile fuel system many claim the 6.4 to have.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...e-on-b100.html
My business was slow and i had time to collect oil and make it, as soon as work picked up i just didnt have the time to mess with it. One of those deals where at the time i had more time then money and it was well worth it.
<style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Cambria; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font-family:auto; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:3 0 0 0 1 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:""; margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ascii-font-family:Cambria; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family:Cambria; mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Cambria; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer-margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> Truck has over a 100,000 miles now and haven’t had one fuel system issue, and my wife accidently put 15 gals of gas in the truck once drove 20 miles and called me saying the truck sounded funny.........I was probably lucky but at any rate I have had very good luck with the fuel system and have had zero of the issue hovering around the alleged fragile fuel system many claim the 6.4 to have.
#52
I believe the mandate for Minnesota is 5% soydiesel and I have zero concerns running the stuff.....matter of fact I prefer it as tests show the lubrucity is way way up over normal low surfur fuel , and it seems to me that is our main worry with these touchy 6.4 fuel systems
My fuel supplies for the farm are delivered out of Minnesota so I am running all soydiesel in my equipment, several tractors , combine , windrower and such , all of these engines are 15 to over 30 years old.......I have zero problems with gaskets or seals and have seldom to service injector pumps or injectors
as far as I am concerned , the soydiesel is a good product.....
My fuel supplies for the farm are delivered out of Minnesota so I am running all soydiesel in my equipment, several tractors , combine , windrower and such , all of these engines are 15 to over 30 years old.......I have zero problems with gaskets or seals and have seldom to service injector pumps or injectors
as far as I am concerned , the soydiesel is a good product.....
#53
I believe the mandate for Minnesota is 5% soydiesel and I have zero concerns running the stuff.....matter of fact I prefer it as tests show the lubrucity is way way up over normal low surfur fuel , and it seems to me that is our main worry with these touchy 6.4 fuel systems
My fuel supplies for the farm are delivered out of Minnesota so I am running all soydiesel in my equipment, several tractors , combine , windrower and such , all of these engines are 15 to over 30 years old.......I have zero problems with gaskets or seals and have seldom to service injector pumps or injectors
as far as I am concerned , the soydiesel is a good product.....
My fuel supplies for the farm are delivered out of Minnesota so I am running all soydiesel in my equipment, several tractors , combine , windrower and such , all of these engines are 15 to over 30 years old.......I have zero problems with gaskets or seals and have seldom to service injector pumps or injectors
as far as I am concerned , the soydiesel is a good product.....
The issue is not 20 year old diesel machines which were as you probably know, built to a much higher quality and looser tolerances than the government mandated products of today; the problem is with the 08 to 10 fords, chevys and dodges and all pre-2012 VW diesels which are designed to use no more than 5% bio, B5. And, you are doing what the rest of us are, using whatever they sell because we have no choice.
All we can do is make all owners aware. i started this thread as a public service after the service manager in michigan told me all about the evils of B6 and above. It was just to alert everyone to the situation.
#54
Stanley......here is a link to a lubricity study comparing several of the common diesel additives along with soydiesel........Lubricity Additive Study Results - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums
If you get thru it , it shows that soydiesel lubricity is much superior to any of the common additives you can buy....frankly , I don't believe any manufacturer that claims a limited percent of soydiesel will harm your engine....I've burned too much of it in my own equipment ; and yes the old injector pumps are much less fussy that these new common rail systems , but if the soy was bad for gaskets and seals I'm quite sure that those of us running soy in old equipment would be seeing problems
bio fuel made out of used cooking oil or other junk I have no knowledge of and would be suspicious of myself , but don't believe I have ever run into any of that stuff
as far as bean farmers loving soydiesel ; really the effect of fuel use on the bean market is really quite miniscule at this time , but I really like the B5 I pump into my 6.4 that I get in Minnesota for the lubricity and I have racked up some of my best milege figures when I filled in Mn ( such as it is)
If you get thru it , it shows that soydiesel lubricity is much superior to any of the common additives you can buy....frankly , I don't believe any manufacturer that claims a limited percent of soydiesel will harm your engine....I've burned too much of it in my own equipment ; and yes the old injector pumps are much less fussy that these new common rail systems , but if the soy was bad for gaskets and seals I'm quite sure that those of us running soy in old equipment would be seeing problems
bio fuel made out of used cooking oil or other junk I have no knowledge of and would be suspicious of myself , but don't believe I have ever run into any of that stuff
as far as bean farmers loving soydiesel ; really the effect of fuel use on the bean market is really quite miniscule at this time , but I really like the B5 I pump into my 6.4 that I get in Minnesota for the lubricity and I have racked up some of my best milege figures when I filled in Mn ( such as it is)
#55
#56
I run pump B-50 to B-80 depending on how often I can get to the pump, I buy Commercial B-99 made by Newport Biodiesel and buy it in Rhode Island at T.H Malloy. I mix accordingly and have been doing so for 4+ years with no issues, when the weather gets cold I actually stop using Bio even though they say I could run B-5 with no issues but Im not willing to run my hpfp dry in a gel up situation....I run Optilube XPD in every taken of fuel year round.
#57
IDK of any. A drunk old woman wiped out my truck and I changed to a 6.7L. That is a good question though. The real question might be how the engines with high mileage hold up using the B6. Anybody have that experience. I'm talking trucks with 200,000 plus. Lots of 7.3s and even 6.0s in that category. So who has a 200,000 mile 6.4L that used B6 or above on a regular basis?
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