billy, you're killing me..... btw, what the hey are you doing on a ford site?????? no caprices here! (but thanks for the shout, these guys hate me here)

 

Gaining useful information is why this board exists. If someone wants to remove his or her cat they can. I appreciate rlh68050 (Rob’s) comment about this action being illegal. I would hate to think that someone would do this thinking it was okay. If you want to do it fine, but that doesn’t make it anymore legal.

This is what the EPA has to say about tampering with an emission device >> EPA- (short version $2500 for a person/$25,000 for a business)

Also remember, if you do remove them, make sure you reinstall them yourself. It is illegal for a business to install a used cat (even if it is your own trucks cat). Check out the bottom of page 3 of this .pdf http://www.epa.gov/otaq/cert/factshts/catcvrts.pdf

Like or not that’s the rules….

 

There is truth in your post, if someone really wants to remove their cat they 'can'. But should they ? I guess that's most important. Sure, one little cat removed aint gonna make a hill of beans difference in our air quality overall. And I agree 100% that the fed govt probably pollutes 100 times more in a day than all the pick-up truck drivers do in a year. But that doesn't change the fact that we all still need to be as responsible as we can. If one guy removes his cat and doesn't get come down on, normally that will mean lots of others will too. And this air we have is all we get. I aint no bleedin heart, tree huggin liberal either, I'm in the lumber business. The business of turning trees into buildings, but trees are plants. They grow slowly but they still are renewable, unlike our atmosphere. I aint raggin on anyone here for removing their cat, don't get me wrong, I hate alot of the stuff the govt does while telling us we can't, but we still all have to do whatever we can to preserve what we have as long as is possible, including our air quality. It took a long time for america to get to it's current state of pollution, it will take a long time to clean it up. But we have to start somewhere, and we all should do whatever we can whenever we can to help out in that respect. But people are gonna do what people do, and condemming anyone is certainly not the best way to get them to 'see your side' as it were. You will attract alot more flies with sugar than you will with vinegar eh ?

 

can i get an amen???

 

For the record, I removed my cat. And I'm glad I did!

The damn thing kept scratching up one of our favorite plants, climbs the screens and leaves holes in them and meows wanting food all the darn time.

I removed him to the backyard... Screw the Feds.

 

Fredvon4, your views on guns are correct. Also, the C5A thing. Where I live, the fire dept, at the airport, sets jet fuel on fire in a pit to practice putting it out. I can honestly tell you, that makes 100 times more pollution in 3 minutes than my truck can in 10 years. Anyway, the subject of sound and exhaust. I have the v-10 with Borla headers, a 40 flowmaster and a 5 inch tailpipe. It is loud, but what a growl. I have melted the right rear shock boot with the hot exhaust, though.

 

I am a Superduty owner and come to this site for entertainment and information. I am also a Federally Licensed Firearms dealer and have been involved in the trade and sale of firearms for over twenty years.

The NRA and it's unwavering, unbending support of gunshows will eventually kill the firearms industry. Everything that they do to support your " individual " rights as a gunowner related to gun shows damages the industry as a whole.

Everthing that the anti gun groups claim about gunshows is true. There is blatant trading and selling of stolen and contraband weapons to felons and other criminals on the floor of virtually every gunshow I have been to in the past twenty years.

There are also the kitchen table dealers with no shop or premises to speak of, who show up and ***** every price so that a legitimate dealer with rent, insurance and taxes to pay cannot compete.

The NRA stands behind this practice firmly claiming legitimacy based in the constitution. I was a life member. When I opened a firearms business I quickly learned that the NRA is a questionable entity at best. When the independant business person cannot make a living as a firearms dealer because of unfair trade from gun shows, it will be simple for the anti gun crowd to eliminate gun shows completely because they are a venue for trade in stolen guns to felons and other criminals. I canceled my membership.

I have personally witnessed the confiscation of at least 30 weapons bought at gun shows by individuals as they attempted to trade them in on new guns in my business.

When the small gun dealers go, and they will as gunshows proliferate - the industry will die - and the NRA knows this. Are they part of a socialist conspiracy to disarm the population? Sure looks like it to me.

Think about it. You cannot buy an AR, FAL, HK, Galil, Glock, Sig, Beretta or AK weapon at Bass Pro Shops. When the small gun shops are gone due to unfair competition from individuals and basement FFL holders at gun shows you will be left with very little in the way of " rights ".

The NRA is a lie!

 

Off Topic, if it wasnt for thr NRA you would be in another profession,and we would be an unarmed country.

 

Sorry to get off topic….

spartan,

By your signature it appears you are making a good living in your firearms business. I could never afford all those accessories and I make a decent wage. I have found the mark-up for firearms at a brick and mortar business to be outrageous! I support the kitchen table dealers fully.

Since you have seen the ATF busting people at guns shows for trading illegally, it would seem the system is working. I would also hazard a guess that there are business owners, like the one you own, that have been busted too.

My feeling is you whould step off your soapbox and work your magic on another board were your tirades would be more appreciated.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled topic…..

Bill
NRA member and proud of it.

 

I am no longer a fulltime dealer. I had to leave the firearms business because of unfair competition from gunshows and kitchen table dealers. You must be one.

I still have an FFL, but I can no longer make a living in that trade. I got to work everyday to a job that I hate.

The NRA is selling you, every legitimate gun dealer and all the gun manufacturers out in the name of the consititution to make money for themselves.

If they were so good - why can't we still import semi automatic weapons from overseas or manufacture magazines that hold more than ten rounds. They are losers who claim false victories and collect your money to line their pockets.

You have no clue. Off topic yes. Based on fact though.

 

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If they were so good - why can't we still import semi automatic weapons from overseas or manufacture magazines that hold more than ten rounds. They are losers who claim false victories and collect your money to line their pockets.

You have no clue. Off topic yes. Based on fact though. [/B][/QUOTE]



DEMOCRATS, THATS WHY

 

This is an excellent topic... (for I used to be a Gun Dealer)

Anyway this is a great subject FOR THE GENERAL CONVERSATION FORUM!

Please keep it about V10s please.

 

DEMOCRATS, THATS WHY [/B][/QUOTE]

I don't want to add to all the off topic posts, but as a V-10 owner and supporter, I have to say that I am SO sick of the Dems. Look at what they are doing over the whole Saddam thing. They are actually accusing the U.S. of denying that demonic tyrant his freekin rights ! Saying we drugged him, or mishandled him in some way. It's UNBELIEVABLE !!! Tie him to a blowed up V-10 and drop him over the side of one of our battleships ! How low can they go ? All this because it's election time ? If I EVER even considered becoming a democrat, today's actions by the democrats would surely convince me that it's WRONG. Sorry, I just saw the news, I couldn't stand it.