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I recently bought a truck to pull the dealer installed air out of it to put in another truck. The truck is a 302 / Automatic truck. I generally stick with 360 390 trucks so this 302 is all new to me. Hopefully it will be gone soon. So here is my question... On the speedo cable there is this little gizmo that has a couple wires that go under the dash. I have not traced them so I thought I's ask first what this is. The item in question is in about the center of the picture.
Also I need a bracket to mount a York compressor on a FE block if someone has one sitting around.
Also I need a bracket to mount a York compressor on a FE block if someone has one sitting around.
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Originally Posted by duphoff
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D1TZ-9A820-B .. Lower Speed Sensing Speedometer Cable-49.24" long / D1TZ-9A820-C .. Upper Speed Sensing Speedometer Cable-22.84" long.
Applications: 1971 F100 302/C4 / 1972 F100 302/C4; 360/390 C6 / Also installed in F100 2WD & 4WD 240 I-6's.
Originally Posted by jowilker
You can't use r12 any longer.
R-12 is available from A/C shops. 114 1 lb. cans of D4AZ-19B519-A-obsolete-(replaced B9LF-19B519-A) are available from 4 Ford Dealers.
Be prepared for sticker shock. Most A/C shops want 25 bucks for 1 lb., original price was 2 bucks.
Takes 2 1/2 lbs. to recharge.
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The EPA banned production in 1994, but A/C shops still sell it. The replacement stuff (R-134) requires a Nippondenso type compressor, does not cool as well.
Google R12, see how many places including Amazon are offering it for sale in the US of A.
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Bill, you are correct that r12 can still be purchased. Bill Wilson can not go to any AC supply store and buy some. One must have certifications & licenses that I don't believe the Number Dummy has.
So what's the problem with my suggestion "Have you considered a different compressor. You can't use r12 any longer and the new compressors turn so much easier."
John
So what's the problem with my suggestion "Have you considered a different compressor. You can't use r12 any longer and the new compressors turn so much easier."
John
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I have R12 so it is not a concern. I own a florist and we had an old cooler that was R12. It has since been retired, wish I was, different retired though. I bought some R12 before the ban and when the price was low. I've just been sitting on it and use it every once in a while. AND no, I don't want to sell it.
If the R12 compressor does not work I'll convert to a new compressor and R134. Chances are the compressor works.
Thanks for the info Bill. I must have parted out 100 or more of these and right now I have a two 71s hanging around and I have never seen one with the little gizmo. There is no "electronic spark control" being used in this truck now. I do know why there is some added wiring now. This truck is a 70 so either it was used pre 71 or someone added it.
I still need a bracket for a FE block...
The under dash unit is in great shape...
If the R12 compressor does not work I'll convert to a new compressor and R134. Chances are the compressor works.
Thanks for the info Bill. I must have parted out 100 or more of these and right now I have a two 71s hanging around and I have never seen one with the little gizmo. There is no "electronic spark control" being used in this truck now. I do know why there is some added wiring now. This truck is a 70 so either it was used pre 71 or someone added it.
I still need a bracket for a FE block...
The under dash unit is in great shape...
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When one owns old rolling piles of misery with A/C, one tends to be prepared. And just for ***** and giggles, I called a dealer that has 63 cans. Could buy it if I wanted to, no licenses, no certifications, just dinero required.
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I think that gizmo was only on 70 models, that's the only ones I've seen it on anyway. I have one in a box of junk I just ran across last week, don't know why I saved it. I used to know exactly how it functioned but had to delete the information from my brain due to low memory.
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that's the only ones I've seen it on anyway.Take a look-see for 1970 applications and part numbers. All I see are 1971/72 applications, (3) D1TZ & (2) D1UZ 1971 part number prefixes.
What's the only outside appearance difference between a 1970 F100/350 and 1971 F100/350? 1970's have a one year only grille frame and one year only egg crate aka checkerboard grille inserts that are the same R/L.
But this 1970 grille can be swapped into 1971/72's. 1971/72's use the same grille frame, R/L specific grille inserts. 1971's use different inserts than 1972.
See post 3 for further info.
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I have R12 so it is not a concern. I own a florist and we had an old cooler that was R12. It has since been retired, wish I was, different retired though. I bought some R12 before the ban and when the price was low. I've just been sitting on it and use it every once in a while. AND no, I don't want to sell it.
If the R12 compressor does not work I'll convert to a new compressor and R134. Chances are the compressor works.
Thanks for the info Bill. I must have parted out 100 or more of these and right now I have a two 71s hanging around and I have never seen one with the little gizmo. There is no "electronic spark control" being used in this truck now. I do know why there is some added wiring now. This truck is a 70 so either it was used pre 71 or someone added it.
I still need a bracket for a FE block...
The under dash unit is in great shape...
If the R12 compressor does not work I'll convert to a new compressor and R134. Chances are the compressor works.
Thanks for the info Bill. I must have parted out 100 or more of these and right now I have a two 71s hanging around and I have never seen one with the little gizmo. There is no "electronic spark control" being used in this truck now. I do know why there is some added wiring now. This truck is a 70 so either it was used pre 71 or someone added it.
I still need a bracket for a FE block...
The under dash unit is in great shape...
Does it happen to say "Clardy" on it?
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1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog / Text Section 97, Page 48.
Take a look-see for 1970 applications and part numbers. All I see are 1971/72 applications, (3) D1TZ & (2) D1UZ 1971 part number prefixes.
What's the only outside appearance difference between a 1970 F100/350 and 1971 F100/350? 1970's have a one year only grille frame and one year only egg crate aka checkerboard grille inserts that are the same R/L.
But this 1970 grille can be swapped into 1971/72's. 1971/72's use the same grille frame, R/L specific grille inserts. 1971's use different inserts than 1972.
See post 3 for further info.
Take a look-see for 1970 applications and part numbers. All I see are 1971/72 applications, (3) D1TZ & (2) D1UZ 1971 part number prefixes.
What's the only outside appearance difference between a 1970 F100/350 and 1971 F100/350? 1970's have a one year only grille frame and one year only egg crate aka checkerboard grille inserts that are the same R/L.
But this 1970 grille can be swapped into 1971/72's. 1971/72's use the same grille frame, R/L specific grille inserts. 1971's use different inserts than 1972.
See post 3 for further info.
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They want to get rid of all refrigerants and let us all sweat.
I heard the EPA has now added CO2 to the hazardous gasses list. Probably won't be long till I have to pay a penalty tax for working out at the gym. I am exceding my allotment of CO2 emissions when I am playing racquetball and breathing hard.
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Yes it is. I was hoping to get it out this weekend and put in another truck. I'm going to move core support and all since it is drilled for hoses etc. The core support in the doner (AC) truck is also in better shape. Not that the other one is in horrible shape I just hate to destroy a good one when I already have one with the extra holes. I figure it's worth the extra hour or two. As a bonus while the radiator is out I'll have it tanked.