so not a week end job? lol. how bout pulling this pig checking her out re timing ,new set up and everything. finish removing EGR. fix rear main seal leak on install. and c what happens?

 

the 460 that is?

 

I'm sorry. I'm sorry I answered your post as I think that has encouraged you to write in a way that is not understandable, or at least not understandable without great effort and multiple leaps to conclusions. In other words, I cannot understand what you wrote. If you want to rephrase things into one post, instead of the multiple that seem to be the norm, and one that is easily understood, I'll try. But I can't spend the time trying to get my head around ill thought out and poorly written questions.

 

Im sorry kind of flustered had a couple rough weeks. So do I need to go all the way in, and rebuild this 460 or is it gonna be ok to just do the timing and c what happens? I'm about ready to pull the motor, and take apart. Wich means the top end gaskets I did recentley will need redone.....

 

Hey, Monster,

Thanks for writing better.

But, I'm gonna repeat what I saw somebody else out here say recently....

Many of these guys are industry experts and have children that are older than these trucks. We all appreciate decent English & grammar & spelling & punctuation, but the most important point in what he said:
I will add to that.... not using apostrophes where they belong is shooting yourself in the foot. For example, saying things such as "im" in place of "I'm" really rubs some people badly.

It might be best for you to start a brand-new thread that's well-written from the beginning....

 

I apologize Monster. I started reading the post and had a little trouble comprhending so I gave up. Some of our members will do that if it isnt written very well. I am not saying you need to have your Grammar teacher come over and proof read it,but, If the apostrophes arent in the right places sometimes I start to think it is some kind of text-ese shorthand or an acronym of some kind I am not familiar with.

 

Don't let the debugging frustrate you to the point of pulling the engine. If it ran, then didn't, but still turns over the innards are still OK.

Backfires can cause strange things, like jumping time on an old worn timing chain (if it was getting ready to fail anyway), or blowing vacuum hoses off, or raising havoc in your exhaust system and blocking it, or ?

It's going to be a detail, not a rebuild or swap, that gets you back going again.

Cheers,
- Jeff

 

Hey, I'm here to help. I just need to be able to understand it the first time I read it. No ambiguity. Straight forward English. At 65 (ok, I lack 13 days) I'm old school. And, I certainly use my iPhone, with an unlimited data plan, to text. And Facetime. And fill out spreadsheets. And.....

But, here on the forum where it is imperative that we fully, and completely, understand what the situation is I just will not take the time to guess at what is being said. Give me your best shot and I'll give you my best shot. Write it like you don't care and I won't either.

 

+1 on this. Especially if you came from EFI engines like I did, the scouting can be difficult. When I took off my carb the base gasket had a hole blown into it, from a backfire I'd assume.


That, and age and previous owners can cause some weird things. When I took off my valve cover I was shocked. About 50% of the gasket was just completely gone.

 

I'm with the others - don't pull it. Let's fix it. I would bring #1 up on TDC and see where the rotor is pointing. If it is exactly at #1 terminal then the timing may not have jumped. But, if it isn't then it probably has jumped.

Or, put a timing light on and crank the engine to see where the timing is. Best to do that with the plugs out so it'll spin reasonably fast. But, if the timing is pretty much where you left it the last time then the timing hasn't jumped.

 

Perches are definitely different, but on my truck and the 1990 parts truck they were bolted with Ford's nice 15mm head bolts and 18mm prevailing torque nuts. Maybe the bigger frames (F250/F350) use bolted perches since the 460 and diesels were options.

 

That does make things easier. Grinding/punching out the 6 rivets wasn't easy, especially since I didn't want to damage either the perch or the frame.

 

Well I got her running again. I'm going to redo the timing setup with a double roller setup. Any problems forseen there? Also what am I bitting into removing the yet, and just using a plane spacer for the carb?

 

Glad you got it running. But, what is a "yet"? How hard are they to remove? I can't say. Please both explain and slow down. Write right the first time so you don't waste my time. Please.

 

Hardest part of the timing chain swap is to get the balancer off the crank.

What is a "yet"? I am thinking EGR, but who knows.