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Old 04-16-2012, 05:41 PM
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Air conditioner clutch question

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I have a 2007 f250 powerstroke with a dodge 12v and dodge ac compressor utilizing ford pressure switches. My ac clutch in not engaging and I am not getting power to it. So far I determined I have 12v to the low pressure switch. I don’t understand how the high pressure switch works but I have 12 volts on two of the four terminals. From there I am not getting voltage to my compressor wires. On the compressor I know I have a good ground to one wire but no voltage to the other. Is there a way to test the high pressure switch or is there another problem I am not seeing. Thanks for any help. Any test suggestions would be welcomed.<o></o>
I just put the system back together and vacuum evacuated it, added 9 ounces of oil and 2.8 pounds of Freon. The pressure is about 100 psi high and low side at 82 degrees F ambient.<o></o>
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Buy Ford parts and try again. Hopefully you didn't use actual freon
 
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R134 don't need Ford parts
 
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:47 PM
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Are you sure you don't have computerized clima control in 2007 model?
If not -the pressure limit switches need to be both closed for the system to work. Easy to put a jumper on the plugs for testing.
 
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I know how to jump the low pressure switch, but I am not sure how to jump the high pressure switch.
 
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:52 PM
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Ck. fuse F1.17, 10 amp at Battery Junction Box and fuse F2.23, 20 amp Central Junction Box. Both feed the A/C clutch relay mounted in the BJB. The pressure switches and circuits feed the PCM and the PCM in turn controls the relay.
 
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Ok, I will have to give that some thought. I don't i checked the 20a fuse yet. Is it possible to have 12v at the high pressure switch on two terminals and still have a blown fuse.
 
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The high and low pressure switches do not feed the relay, they are inputs to the pcm. The fuses I mentioned are to power the A/C clutch relay circuits which is controlled by a pcm output. These are two totally different circuits with different fuses.
 
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Ok, thanks. I will check fuse 23 tomorrow.
 
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All my fuses are ok and I even flip flopped the relay with another one and still no power. Is there a way to test the high pressure switch so I can eliminate that as my problem?
 
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The high pressure switch is dual function, one being high pressure cutout and two being fan control. The high pressure cutout side opens at 435-475 and closes at 230-290 psi, circuits RD/YE and TN/RD. Circuits VT and BK/YE are fan control, if I rcall the contact closes at approx 325-350 can't find the spec on this one. Is this manual or automatic climate control.
 
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Automatic. Also, the fan operates fine, don't know if that means anything.
 
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Speicher,

According to your specifications I don't have enough pressure on the high side to satisfy the switch. I thought the high side pressure goes up when the compressor kicks on?
 
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Speicher,

According to your specifications I don't have enough pressure on the high side to satisfy the switch. I thought the high side pressure goes up when the compressor kicks on?
The high-side switch is a safety cutout in the event of over-pressure. In normal operation, the normally closed switch contacts just pass the AC Demand/Request signal through to the rest of the circuit. When the system over-pressurizes, those contacts open to disable the clutch while simultaneously closing the other set of contacts to force fan operation (on vehicles with electric fans).
 
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Thanks, that explains a lot. If I test the switch with it removed from the vehicle will I get continuity on any of the terminals?<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
 


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