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Old 03-06-2012, 10:20 PM
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Can you help identify my transmission? pics

It's attached to a flathead that came out of a 1950 F1. I think both were original to the truck but don't know for sure. I'm not sure if these numbers show up in the pics but they were cast into the housing.

OIT 7006.

T8D-1. (don't know why it's putting the smiley face - should read T 8 D - 1 with no spaces).

WG 8H.

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Old 03-07-2012, 06:03 AM
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Looks like a spur gear 4 speed, but doesn't have the separate bell like the ones on my trucks. It has the PTO mounting which I don't think the three speeds had. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. Stu
 
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Old 03-07-2012, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 19fifty4
It's attached to a flathead that came out of a 1950 F1. I think both were original to the truck but don't know for sure. I'm not sure if these numbers show up in the pics but they were cast into the housing.

0IT 7006 / T8D-1 (don't know why it's putting the smiley face - should read T 8 D - 1 with no spaces).
Where is the smilie face? No see um.

When you type 8D together, you get that fracatta smilie face...unless you "disable smilies in text."

After you type a post that has 8D together, scroll down to the bottom of the page, click on the "disable smilies in text" box that I just did.

And, you can edit it out of your post: Click on Edit - then Go Advanced.

Marked: 01T-7006 = Ford part number: 01T-7005 .. Warner T8 4 Speed Transmission Case / 1940/46 Truck / 1941/47 Commercial (1/2 ton) & 122" wheelbase truck.

'Commercial' name changed to F1 in 1948, F100 replaced F1 in 1953.
 
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Bill, when did Ford change from the BB prefix on this transmission?
 
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Bill, when did Ford change from the BB prefix on this transmission?
OP: 01T-7006. This is the ID number marked on and for the case only, it is not the transmission number.

The Ford part number for this case is 01T-7005 / I listed the trans type and its applications, because...I have what long time Ford collectors call The Bible ~ 1928/48 Ford Passenger Car & 1928/47 Truck Parts Catalog.

The Bible sez (on page 293): BB-7006 .. Trans Case = 1932/34 all 4 cylinder.

I'm a long time (since 1956) Ford collector and The Bible is available on a CD from hipoparts.com @ $20.95.
 
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I should have said case, although the insides didn't change much from 32 to the last year this type of transmission was offered, did they?
 
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I should have said case, although the insides didn't change much from 32 to the last year this type of transmission was offered, did they?
I dunno, I suppose I could look all the parts up, but that would take time and it isn't relevant. You can buy your own copy of The Bible on a CD, look 'em up yourself.

My catalog is the original bound paper version with three ring holes. The green covers went bye bye decades ago, it's now inside an original three ring 1953/56 truck parts catalog binder.

The pages are filthy, the catalog stinks like an old greasy garage, cuz it came from a Ford Dealer that opened in 1918, closed in 2008.

Originally Fortner Ford, then Fortner & Loud Ford, then Loud Ford, then Pasadena Ford. Now Hertz Car Sales is located on the property...2047 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena CA
 
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Marked: 01T-7006 = Ford part number: 01T-7005 .. Warner T8 4 Speed Transmission Case / 1940/46 Truck / 1941/47 Commercial (1/2 ton) & 122" wheelbase truck.
Bear with me here as I try to follow along. My shop manual begins with the 49 model year so I'm not sure it has the answer anyway.

The transmission referenced above was native to the 40-46 truck and 41-47 commercial and wasn't offered on the 48-52 F1's? Is that correct? If so, either it was not originally mated to the flathead I have or I have an earlier version flathead (40-47) than I first thought?
 
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Originally Posted by 19fifty4
Bear with me here as I try to follow along. My shop manual begins with the 49 model year so I'm not sure it has the answer anyway.

The transmission case referenced above was native to the 40-46 truck and 41-47 commercial and wasn't offered on the 48-52 F1's? Is that correct?
Correct.

If so, either it was not originally mated to the flathead I have or I have an earlier version flathead (40-47) than I first thought?
Where is the dizzy, mounted low at the front of the engine between the waterpumps, or sticking up out of the right (passenger) side of the engine?
 
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:27 AM
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I'm thinking this is the latter / sticking up out of the engine - pass side. Correct me if that's not right.



 
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Latter is correctamundo. You didn't edit your post to get rid of that 8D smilie face. See post 3 for how to get rid of it.
 
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19Fifty4, your trans is an earlier version of the trans that would have been original to your truck. Someone has undoubtedly replaced the original with one from a junkyard. The primary difference is the integral half-bellhousing vs the separate half-bell (hogshead) that 48-52 used.
 
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Old 03-10-2012, 11:16 AM
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Thanks. I think I edited out the smiley face.

The primary difference is the integral half-bellhousing vs the separate half-bell (hogshead) that 48-52 used.
So does that make the tranny assembly longer since it's 2 pieces or is it basically the same length, just 2 pieces instead of 1? Will that affect the how the linkage lines up between the pedal and the bellhousing? Where the tranny hits the crossmember? How about the position of the where the shifter comes thru the floor?
 
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I wouldn't think anything will be different, but some quick measurements will confirm. Check the rear mount on the trans, is it correct for your frame?
 
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