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But what are we RVers who use trucks to tow, or carry our RVs when they have to get the MPG up to 55? It can't be done on trucks. I get 10 MPG carrying my camper on the back of my new 250 with a 6.2L. Is there a different standard for trucks than cars?

RVing may be a thing of the past with these gas prices, and with the model I see presented, the CNG tanks obstruct the bed significantly, so no truck camper. Might as well buy an Expedition.

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I'm with you there sir! I've lusting over a Crusader 290RL and also looking at a retirement sire for new home site also sigh ....so my 7.3 will need to get a fresh make up of pep but not a 65k - 70k make up ha..... I rarely see write ups about how the new truck impacts users other then the soccer mom driving a 4 x 4 KR on 35's here in south Texas lol.... us Rv'rs and campers seem to be an after thought......

Where is that list to join up for the Ford super duty focus group????

I'm volunteering & bet you would too.....
 
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Originally Posted by LazarusRising
But what are we RVers who use trucks to tow, or carry our RVs when they have to get the MPG up to 55? It can't be done on trucks. I get 10 MPG carrying my camper on the back of my new 250 with a 6.2L. Is there a different standard for trucks than cars?

RVing may be a thing of the past with these gas prices, and with the model I see presented, the CNG tanks obstruct the bed significantly, so no truck camper. Might as well buy an Expedition.

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Your supposed to do like they do over in Europe..........Nothing. Or pull your camper with a mini. Don't worry socialism isn't that bad.
 
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Not going European!

I can't help but think that with the infrastructure we have built here for RV's, there will be some provision made for RVers. Hopefullly we'll have CNG vehicles will similar payload capacities as our gas/diesel trucks. Of course as soon as the gov't gets wind of CNG becoming mainstream, they'll tax it out of range for us too.

Does a vehicle lose horsepower when CNG powered?
 
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I read on Westports site that comparable HP - But -they are the ones selling it - so probably some fudge factor there...
 
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Same truck, Byram

Hey, Byram I have the exact same truck you do. Same color, trim, Supercab, wheels and everything. I love it and it hardly knows my 1 ton camper is onboard. I can't figure out how to post a photo. I'll just use yours!

This will probably be my last RV. I'm feelin' the sunset.

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Yea - I think that you need a few more post to show picts..

Yea - the only problem with these white SC - in south texas we all look like oil field guys... whether we are or not...
 
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what are we RVers who use trucks to tow, or carry our RVs when they have to get the MPG up to 55? It can't be done on trucks.
55 MPG is the average for the whole FLEET. NOT each vehicle model. The electric and hybrids will help balance out the trucks.

The best thing about Natural gas is that it helps in our National Security! It is all here in N.America! We won't have to buy a drop of old dinosaur oil from the Middle East countries!

Buying Natural gas will NOT add to the Federal Deficit either!

Read more here....

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The best thing about Natural gas is that it helps in our National Security! It is all here in N.America! We won't have to buy a drop of old dinosaur oil from the Middle East countries!
We will always depend on middle east for dinosaur oil. If we cut our usage down any more they will just raise the price to compensate for selling us less oil. Look at this winter.....mild across much of the US if not all and look at the fuel costs - they're not dropping because we used less...they're going up for us because China used more. Had we used our average amount they say our prices would continue to go down. Hard to figure those people out.
 
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True, my nephew works for Pioneer Resources, an oil outfit working around Karnes City. They gave him a white, 250 supercab as company wheels.
 
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True, my nephew works for Pioneer Resources, an oil outfit working around Karnes City. They gave him a white, 250 supercab as company wheels.
Sweet good for him maybe he can share with us (via you?) on how well it preforms out there as a working truck.

The Eagle-Ford shale play has us scrambling for a retirement location since everyone has jacked up the land. 20k per acre in some instances w/o mineral rights. However I am happy for the economy growing a bit in a lackluster rural community area between Goliad up to Shiner......I wish him well.

OK, sorry folks not to hijack the thread just nice to hear from someone near home. back to our regular scheduled thread.....
 
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Here in Venezuela they already sell Brand new F350's with Natural gas and the infrastructure has been made. Filling stations are everywhere. They started doing this at around 2007. I Hope it makes it to the U.S.

The system is compleatly incorporated to the truck from the factory.

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lucky me, I have 70 brand new cng vehicles in my fleet that i repair... We have 2 filling stations in Grand Rapids, and no one that works on the cng systems. I have found the range to be lousy (200 miles with Chevy vans with 2 tanks, up to 300 miles for Super Duty with 3 tanks) , power output to be less than gasoline, but engines and exhaust are squeaky clean. Our vehicles are all strictly CNG, which sucks. Dual fuel would be awesome, then we wouldn't have to run out and hook 2 trucks together to get an empty truck to the fueling station. Only Ford has the "fill one truck from another one" option, to save a chevy we have to take a ford... fitting, I think!
cng is pretty quick to fill up, but the more use a pump has, the slower it gets. Cng has to be pressurized to 3600 psi for automotive, and if the compressor isn't keeping up with demand it will take much longer to fill. Thats why a home filling station takes all night to fill up.
 
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lucky me, I have 70 brand new cng vehicles in my fleet that i repair... We have 2 filling stations in Grand Rapids, and no one that works on the cng systems. I have found the range to be lousy (200 miles with Chevy vans with 2 tanks, up to 300 miles for Super Duty with 3 tanks) , power output to be less than gasoline, but engines and exhaust are squeaky clean. Our vehicles are all strictly CNG, which sucks. Dual fuel would be awesome, then we wouldn't have to run out and hook 2 trucks together to get an empty truck to the fueling station. Only Ford has the "fill one truck from another one" option, to save a chevy we have to take a ford... fitting, I think!
cng is pretty quick to fill up, but the more use a pump has, the slower it gets. Cng has to be pressurized to 3600 psi for automotive, and if the compressor isn't keeping up with demand it will take much longer to fill. Thats why a home filling station takes all night to fill up.
when i was at the freightliner dealership, we had a utility company buy a fewCNG trucks to "try them out" before switching over the entire fleet. the trucks had no power, and horrible range. they were always running out of fuel on the road and getting towed back to the companies shop for refilling. they did not last long. when i quit the trucks had been in service for 6 months, and decomissoned for about a year with no signs of another CNG batch of trucks in the companies future.

the technology has quite a way to go before i am sold on it.
 
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Hopeful the nat gas in play today will help build the needed infrastructure to support CNG vehicles. Maybe trucks are not ready for commercial use but maybe local city gummet vehicles can be good candidates?
 
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