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Old 04-24-2003, 04:15 AM
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Hi all,

I very recently inherited (was given) an old 56 F100 from my younger brother. He purchased it about 15 years ago with the intent to fix it up, but never did, and after sitting at our parents for ages he finally just asked me to pick it up. It's more or less complete, but that's about where the good news stops.

I have many plans for it, but before I get there I have some basic problems with registration. I have the title. It's from Oregon and I'm in Idaho. So when they re-title it to me, they have to do a VIN check. I just did a VIN check and found that they don't match. In fact, the title says it's a 1955. I figured it was an early production, sold in 55, but the VIN number on the title (F10V5R33204) clearly shows that the title IS for a 1955 truck.

However, the cab is clearly a 1956 with the curved window. The VIN panel on the cab shows F10D6R10604, which would be correct for a 56.

So, my question is: Is the VIN stamped on the frame elsewhere? I'd like to find another reference to match the VIN on this thing.

As I recall, when we bought it the guy said it had an inline 6 and his son swapped in the 292 V8. The body tag VIN also matches the inline 6, where the title VIN would have had a 239 V8. Or should I just try to apply for a new title for the correct VIN on the body?

Thanks for any input you can provide!
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Old 04-24-2003, 06:35 AM
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Dan,

On the '56s the VIN is stamped on the top of the passenger side frame rail about 9" in front of the transmission crossmember. I don't know about the laws in Idaho but I seem to remember that you can get a new title from www.broadwaytitle.com. Good luck!
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Does the truck have a '56 grill?
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Thanks for the info. The grill is definitely the 56 model year. I'll check out the VIN stamping on the frame. Will I have to pull the cab off to see that though? Or will it be visible from the engine compartment?

Thanks for the tip on Broadway Title too. I'm unsure about the title situation. It could be that the person we purchased from (ages ago) had both a 55 and 56 Ford at one time, and accidently signed off the wrong title. However, it could be that they bought a 56 parts truck and swapped cab/grill, etc. on to the 55 frame.

Are there other differences between components on the 55 and 56 F-100's that I could look for. Things like brakes, axles, etc?

Thanks again for the help. Hopefully this all works out.
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Well, I pulled off the inner fender on the passenger side. Then with a wire wheel on a grinder I took all the paint off the frame rail. No VIN number to speak of. I cleaned the top and side of the frame between the tranny x-member and the front shock mount. Is this where I should find something?

Any help/direction would be greatly appreciated.
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You could try the driver side as well.
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Will do--

So far the Oregon and California DMV's do *not* have this VIN in any of their records. I'm still trying to get info from Washington.

I'll let you know what I find. Thanks for the advice!
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I am new to this site I have canadian made F100 1959 vin # is 6991018YK-58608 can anyone decoe it for me.My son found it out west great condition.
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I hope you have better luck finding the VIN stamped on the frame than I did on my 54. I am still looking. Since I am in the process of disassembling I have been able to look carefully at the frame rails and have not been able to detect it. I've pulled the inner fender, outer fender, (both sides), the motor and any other item I think might be concealing it. So far, no VIN. The cab is all that remains. I've had the wire wheel to it and will give it one more shot this weekend before sending the frame off to be blasted. I hope you have an easier time finding yours. Good luck with your project
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On my 48, I found it on the top of the drivers side frame rail immediately forward of the front axle. Sorry, I don't know about the 56.
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I have found out information on my 59 F100. vin# 6 (6 cylinder) 99 (styleside) 10 (100) 18 (wheelbase Y(59) K Oakville plant) 58608 (how it came off the assembly line).Have also read that some F100's came off the line with Mercury emblems on them and ours clearly have them.If anyone has any more knowledge on this topic please let me know
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I just did a VIN check and found that they don't match. In fact, the title says it's a 1955. I figured it was an early production, sold in 55, but the VIN number on the title (F10V5R33204) V = 272 2V / 5 = 1955 / R = San Jose CA Assembly Plant.

However, the cab is clearly a 1956 with the curved window. The VIN panel on the cab shows F10D6R10604 (D = 223 1V / 6 = 1956 / R = San Jose), which would be correct for a 56.
A previous owner was able to procure a Rating Plate from another truck along with a title and used them to register the vehicle.

The original title could have been lost, a cab swap was performed, or...the truck was stolen at one point at which time the Rating Plate and title were found from another vehicle.

Several months ago, an article in the LA Times told of a local resident (SoCal) who had his 1955 T-Bird stolen in the mid 1970's.

He got it back after all these years when the Bird's present (new) owner found out there were two VIN's. One on the frame, a different one on the title.

When this owner went to register the Bird, a frame VIN search was done by the CA DMV.

The fellow wasn't too happy when he found out the Bird he just bought was stolen.

He had to give up the car, and now has to fight with the seller (major auction company) he bought it from, to get his money back.

If you cannot find a frame VIN, it could have been ground off, which clearly points to one thing, a stolen vehicle.
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Well, I pulled off the inner fender on the passenger side. Then with a wire wheel on a grinder I took all the paint off the frame rail. No VIN number to speak of. I cleaned the top and side of the frame between the tranny x-member and the front shock mount. Is this where I should find something?

Any help/direction would be greatly appreciated.
sometimes it is also on the front crossmember edge flange (usually the back edge)

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Of the two 52 F-1s that I have one has the VIN stamped clearly on the right side frame rail between the shock mount and the front cross member. The other truck has no VIN number stamped on the frame anywhere. The two trucks were built at two different plants at vastly different times according to the VIN #s. Perhaps depending on where it was built explains why some have the numbers stamped on the frame and others don't.
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Well, it sounds like, for whatever reason, you have a disjoint.

Perhaps the title that your brother acquired when he bought the truck was the wrong one of many the owner had for a multitude of trucks. Or it was stolen at some time - yadda yadda. But, if your brother has had it for 15 years, I would venture to say that if it was stolen, the original owner has stopped missing it by now.

If you can't find the number stamped on the frame, this is what I would do start from scratch. Go to the Idaho DMV (if that's where you want to register it). Get a bill of sale from your brother. Just disregard the title and plates he gave you and apply for a new title. In the explanation box state that the person who sold you the truck has lost the title and had the truck for 15 years. Present bill of sale.

During the VIN check, use the vin on the rating plate on the truck and get a title with that number. If for some reason it comes up being a vin that is registered actively to another truck, ask for advice. Those folks know that a lot of these parts got swapped around.

When all is said and done, you'll have a title, plates and registration that all sync that will match the Rating plate SERIAL number on the truck - that's the goal, right?

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