Trying to Identify This Weird "Filler Neck"
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I'm trying to search Azone and see what they list. Might have to go with something other they a truck with an FE and see what they list. It will be about the size of a spray paint can lid, with two tabs that stick down in the hole. It will be a breather, with wire mesh inside.
Here's my 428 with factory 2x4 intake showing the filler neck:
Can't seem to find a picture with the cap on?? Of course LOL!!
I see the problem. You have a Holley 4bbl on your motor. They never put 4bbls on trucks, so someone has swapped intakes from a car.
Here's my 428 with factory 2x4 intake showing the filler neck:
Can't seem to find a picture with the cap on?? Of course LOL!!
I see the problem. You have a Holley 4bbl on your motor. They never put 4bbls on trucks, so someone has swapped intakes from a car.
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^ No 428 came with an engine oil fill tube since 428's were introduced in 1966, so your engine also has swapped parts. ^
It could very well be the original truck 390, but this style of valve cover and oil fill tube weren't used on any truck, nor Passenger Cars after 1964.
Is the block original, or not?
Look at the rubber insulators, see if someone had to fab up brackets to mount the truck insulators to the block.
1958/64 Passenger Car FE engines have rounded valve covers without any holes in them for an oil cap or smog valve...have an engine oil fill tube.
The 1958/64 FE blocks have a different bolt pattern for the insulators than 1965/71 Passenger Car & 1965/76 F100/350's (I think it's 2 holes for 1958/64 vs 3 holes for 1965/76).
So brackets have to be fabbed to install 1958/64 FE engines in 1965 and later FE vehicles.
THUNDERBIRD valve covers were used on all 1961/64 390 engines except Merc's. MERCURY will be embossed on 1961/64's.
FORD valve covers were used on 1961/64 Ford 352 Passenger Cars. Valve covers used on 406/427's are plain.
Both chrome and painted valve covers were available for these engines. The chrome covers were part of the "engine dress-up" kit, but could be bought by themselves at the parts counter.
btw: THUNDERBIRD valve covers were painted gold.
btw, part II: 390 4V's were optional on 1974/76 F100/350's ~ VIN engine code M (H = 390 2V / Y = 360) / The 4V is a Holley, similar to what was used on all 4V 1973/79 F100/350's w/460's.
It could very well be the original truck 390, but this style of valve cover and oil fill tube weren't used on any truck, nor Passenger Cars after 1964.
Is the block original, or not?
Look at the rubber insulators, see if someone had to fab up brackets to mount the truck insulators to the block.
1958/64 Passenger Car FE engines have rounded valve covers without any holes in them for an oil cap or smog valve...have an engine oil fill tube.
The 1958/64 FE blocks have a different bolt pattern for the insulators than 1965/71 Passenger Car & 1965/76 F100/350's (I think it's 2 holes for 1958/64 vs 3 holes for 1965/76).
So brackets have to be fabbed to install 1958/64 FE engines in 1965 and later FE vehicles.
THUNDERBIRD valve covers were used on all 1961/64 390 engines except Merc's. MERCURY will be embossed on 1961/64's.
FORD valve covers were used on 1961/64 Ford 352 Passenger Cars. Valve covers used on 406/427's are plain.
Both chrome and painted valve covers were available for these engines. The chrome covers were part of the "engine dress-up" kit, but could be bought by themselves at the parts counter.
btw: THUNDERBIRD valve covers were painted gold.
btw, part II: 390 4V's were optional on 1974/76 F100/350's ~ VIN engine code M (H = 390 2V / Y = 360) / The 4V is a Holley, similar to what was used on all 4V 1973/79 F100/350's w/460's.
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Bill, can you get him the actual Ford part number to the cap so he can have it crossed over at local parts store? Napa is pretty good about stuff like this.
Might have to tell them it's for a '64 Galaxie or such to get them going in the right direction. Measure the tube size so you have that as reference.
I found this, but it's a chevy part. It gives you an idea.
Edelbrock/Chrome GM style oil fill tube with breather (4803) | Oil Filler Tube | AutoZone.com
Might have to tell them it's for a '64 Galaxie or such to get them going in the right direction. Measure the tube size so you have that as reference.
I found this, but it's a chevy part. It gives you an idea.
Edelbrock/Chrome GM style oil fill tube with breather (4803) | Oil Filler Tube | AutoZone.com
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The original black oil cap (B6A-6766-A) was used from 1956 thru 1964 on Y blocks and FE's.
'56/57 T-Bird nuts have gobbled up all the originals which are dome shaped with OIL marked on the cap twice.
Sometime in the early 1960's, Ford kept the same part number, but the idiots changed the cap style. It's plain, shorter than the original, has a flat top and is butt ugly!
The problem is, when searching on Ford Dealer and obsoilete parts vendor...parts locator sites for a NOS B6A oil cap...if found, which type is it?
You'll have to call and ask...but, it's prolly gonna be the later butt ugly.
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I know the stocker version I had years ago was a flat style with a lower dish in the middle? I also have a chrome Ford version for my pickup. The motorcraft tag is long gone after 20 years of wiping it off. It was rounded corner with small indent in the center.
I have one that looks like the aftermarket one on my black car. Didn't buy it, came with something?
I have one that looks like the aftermarket one on my black car. Didn't buy it, came with something?
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I'm almost positive its the original block, and i think the insulators only have two bolts, but ill double check that tonight when i get home, and actually put the edelbrock intake on this truck about two years ago it just was painted with the block so it looks original but it's not, it originally had a motorcraft 2bbl on there i think.
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What used/new car dealer, private seller doesn't lie when selling a vehicle?
Most a these peeps can lie just as well as lawyers and politicians.
The ongoing problem is, some 's believe every single word a seller claims. Have 'buck fever' with money burnin' a hole in their pockets, don't do one ounce of research, so...
They usually get stuck with pigs-in-a-poke.
Most a these peeps can lie just as well as lawyers and politicians.
The ongoing problem is, some 's believe every single word a seller claims. Have 'buck fever' with money burnin' a hole in their pockets, don't do one ounce of research, so...
They usually get stuck with pigs-in-a-poke.
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1965/76 FE engines have pent roof shaped valve covers with holes in them for smog valve/oil cap. There is no oil fill tube after 1964.