OK, Mister Three on the Tree,

4 questions and 2 statements.....

1. Did YOU really not know that when I said "Dog Dish" that I was refering to the small hub caps common to the 60's era F100?

2. Were you really trying to protect me from big bad Bill Dubyah or were you just wanting to get you chance with a pointy stick first?

3. Do you really think that I need your protection, or Bill Dubyah needs you to be his mouth piece?

4. Is this really how FTE wants to approach new members when they are asking legit questions?

and...

1. At 6'6" and 250, my **** is probably higher than some self-important slug can reach, but if you really want to try, just text me and I'll send you directions.....

2. I thought this was going to be a chance to learn from people who liked trucks and wanted to share their knowledge, but I guess I misjudged.....

regards,

Wichita Sam

 

Save the fight proposal for the rest of your world. This is a great forum full of kind hearted and knowledgable people.

 

so act like it

 

OK, how about responding to my original question... can I convert my 66 to front disk brakes and still use the small "hub caps"....?

hope that answering a question is as much fun as playin' with me....

 

I can only comment on my own conversion and I guess you could say that I am not all the way through it yet.

My stock 15" wheels clear the calipers on my conversion just fine. The rears are a different story. There is a slight rub. I am trying to figure out whether I add a thin spacer to the rear hub to help the clearance, or should I just grind down the outer edge of the caliper (like 1/4") so that the 15" stock wheels clear the rears. Not too excited about either option, so I haven't done anything yet.

A non-stock option would be to get older 15" Ford wheels (since disc brakes were introduced in later years). like 1973+, with the same bolt pattern 5 X 5.5. The look would be identical.

An additional stock option would be to acquire 16" wheels (that were an option in 1965). I think those wheels would clear the disc conversation, but I can't get confirmation on that AND those wheels are rare and expensive, so I wouldn't want to get them and have them not work. Also, I had not confirmed that my dog dish (just messin' with ya again) hubcaps will fit the 16" stock wheels.

Plus, to add to the problem, I already have the 15" wheels painted (arrgghh) so I would need to repaint anything new I got.

So, I'm not sure if I have the full answer yet. If you find out anything that fills in these unknown gaps, please post them here so everyone can figure it out. I think a disc brake conversion is a common upgrade.

 

that's helpful and encouraging.. thanks, Sam

 

Ok, I've got an update...............

I spent some time this afternoon on this disc & wheel clearance issue. Turns out that I did not have the rear wheels on fully when I stated they rubbed slightly. They rub TREMENDOUSLY. Grinding is not going to work.

So, I have ordered five (5) replacement 15" stock Ford F100 wheels from a later year F100 (I think it is a 1973 the fella said). Those will work because they are designed for disc brakes and they are the same bolt pattern.

Once I get them, I'll post a picture of the back of each so everyone can see the difference.

It a bit of a bummer, since I already had the 1965 stock wheels blasted and epoxy primed.

As a side note, if anyone needs a set of four (4) blasted and primed 15" stock 1965 F100 wheels, let me know. I have an extra set.

 

This can be confusing to a lot of people when to refering to "DOG DISH" hubcaps during the '61 thru '66 era 2WD F 100's. Primarily because there was a hubcap change on the standard 1966 F100's.All 2WD '61 thru '65 F 100's came with the inner nub type wheel that used the flat bottlecap hubcap.This "flat bottlecap" will fit all 15" 16" and 17.5" inner nub 5 lug wheels. In 1966 Ford began to use a new outer bump wheel and the old carryover "1964 GALAXIE" hubcap on F 100's. The "GALAXIE" hubcap was the only cap that would fit the new outer bump wheels. There were 2 different diameter versions of this "1964 GALAXIE" hubcap.These hubcaps look very simialar, however one is the small 9 1/2" version, which was used on 13" wheels (early econoline vans as well) does not fit F 100's. The larger 10 1/4" "GALAXIE" will fit 15" or 16" 1966 outer bump F 100 rims. This "GALAXIE" hubcap will not fit the rare 17.5" wheel, because the 17.5" wheel was never manufactured with the outer bump configuration.ALL 1966 F100's that were ordered with 17.5" rims( usually 4X4's or government vehicles) came with inner nub wheels and carryover "flat bottlecap" hubcaps.

 

^ Uh, your wheel and hubcap info is incorrect. ^ Get yourself a 1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog, go to Text, Section 12, look at the pics of the caps and read their applications.

Sure, why not. From the pic you posted (post 57), you have 15" outie wheels and 10 1/4" outie dog dish hubcaps.

This hubcap is one of two painted versions of the stainless steel 1964 Galaxie hubcap (C4AZ-1130-A) that were installed on 1965/66 F100 Custom Cabs.

Two painted versions: Painted white with white FORD letters on a painted red background / Painted argent with argent FORD letters on a painted red background.

Stainless steel version: Stainless FORD letters on a painted black background / btw: The painted caps are not stainless under their paint, are gray base metal.

Outie 15" wheels were introduced in 1965 F100's (1965/66 F100: C5TZ-1007-D), were used thru 1983, and: 1966/96 Bronco's, 1975/96 F150's, 1975 thru today E150's all came with 15" 5 lug 5.50" bolt circle outies.

Innie 15" wheels and hubcaps were last used on F100's in 1966.

One thing to be aware of: Some 1980/83 F100's have 5.50" bolt circle wheels, some have 4.50" bolt circle wheels.

Peeps have been refering to EVERY automakers hubcaps as dog dishes for over 90 years, so as far as I'm concerned, you can call 'em whatever you wish.

 

I recently finished my disc brake conversion on my 65 using parts from a 79. I was hoping to use my original innie 15" wheels with the "bottle cap" caps. Not only did my wheels rub on the calipers, but the "hub" of the rotor sticks out too far and the "bottle cap" caps will no longer go onto the wheels. I would need at least a 1" spacer behind the wheel to get enough clearance for the original caps to go on. So in my application the answer was no the original wheels and caps will not work on a disc brake conversion. At least with parts from a 79.

 

The pattern was used until the taurus on steroids F-150's came out.

 

Would the caps fit on a disc brake conversion if you used the later 15 x 7 wheels instead of the 15 x 6?

 

Agian, your are confused on applications. Searching thru all those part numbers will easily do that to you. Here is the truth to get you straight. The 1966 F100 only used ONE version of the "painted" 10 1/4" "GALAXIE" hubcap, besides the stainless version. This cap was the argent silver with red trim. The 10 1/4" "GALAXIE" white painted hubcap with red trim was used only on ECONOLINE vans.There was also a smaller 9 1/2" white with red "GALAXIE" style hubcap, but used only on smaller ECONOLINE van wheels.

 

HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAAAHA that is exactly how ugly they were!!!

 

Here is the truth = 1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog / Text, Section 12, Pages 1 & 2:

C4AZ-1130-A .. Outie Hubcap-10 1/4" diameter / Stainless steel with stainless steel FORD letters on a black background.

1964 Ford Custom/Galaxie 500 (500XL's came w/wheel covers) / 1965/66 F100 Custom Cabs / 1965/67 Econoline Deluxe Super Vans.
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C5TZ-1130-A .. Outie Hubcap-10 1/4" diameter / Painted white with white FORD letters on a red background.

1965/67: Econoline Super Vans & F100 Standard Cabs.
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C6TZ-1130-D .. Outie Hubcap-10 1/4" diameter / Painted argent with argent FORD letters on a red background.

1966/67 F100 Standard Cabs.