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Old 02-07-2012, 08:34 AM
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51 F1 4x4 conversion "help"

Hello FTE 'er's...

I am converting my '51 F1 to 4x4 (moving to Montana). Got Dana 44 axles from a '79 Bronco already installed, now need a transfer case - the F1 has a mid '80's 302 w/AOD trans, which I want to keep for the od aspect of it.

I have heard that an 86ish Bronco w/5.0 came with the married T/C, i think the NP208, but am not sure.

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Old 02-07-2012, 08:57 AM
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You should contact FTE member jpb222, he's done the best 4X4 conversion I've ever seen.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...d-f-1-4x4.html
 
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:06 AM
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Great! Thanks!!

I'm new at this. Could you provide some info on how to reply to him?

Thanks again!
 
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Well, first I should have welcomed you to the FTE board. You've stumbled onto the best '48-56 Ford truck board. The guys here are A-1 and super friendly so if you have any questions at all ask away.

You don't have enough posts, you need 25, to use the site search feature or send messages to fellow board members. IMO, I think it's kind of a dumb requirement but I guess it was implemented to avoid spammers. I contacted jpb222 for you and asked him to stop by this thread.
 
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"Super friendly" is right on, Bob - thanks so much for your help. I have been digging around on the web for info on this conversion - but I guess they are far and few between.

Thanks again!
 
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The only requirement of the members is you have to post pictures, lots of pictures, especially if you're going to do a major project like this. Oh, did I mention we like pictures?
 
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Hi, I have done a 4x4 conversion on mine and have helped a lot of other folks set up there conversions.

Since you already have the engine and tranny installed why not use a divorced t-case. If you need one I have a dana 24 sitting in the corner of the garage that I will sale cheap if you are local enough to pick it up.

From my memory there are aod's with a 4x4 extension to use a np208 BUT the frame is too narrow on an f-1 to fit it without hacking the frame bottom flange or installing it really low in the frame...so I think a divorced t-case would be the way to go for you.
 
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51-f1-bob's location in his profile shows to be in Colorado. There's always Uship.com. Need to strap it to a pallet and find a shipper going that way.
 
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Originally Posted by 51-f1-bob
Hello FTE 'er's...

I am converting my '51 F1 to 4x4 (moving to Montana). Got Dana 44 axles from a '79 Bronco already installed, now need a transfer case - the F1 has a mid '80's 302 w/AOD trans, which I want to keep for the od aspect of it.

I have heard that an 86ish Bronco w/5.0 came with the married T/C, i think the NP208, but am not sure.

Thanks,

Bob
Hi there and welcome. I did a conversion similar to this many years ago. I installed a 51 f1 cab and box on the frame and running gear of a 79 Cherokee Chief (AMC). I gotta say it was a real pain in the place you sit on but it can be done. Keep your torch and welder handy. Good luck and when you can, show us some pictures. It's unfortunate that I only got one pic of that build and it was taken before digital cameras and after I had it together. I gave the truck to my nephew, he thinks it's the most wonderful truck on th planet...lol.

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Hey bobj49f2, I "will" figure out how to get pics on this FTE forum... somehow... since I heard from a lil' birdie that the FTE folks ... like ... PHOTOS... ok.. O'm not yellin' - lol

Hey jpb222, not sure, but I may need to go to the "installing it low in the frame" mode, because I think I need a wide T\C to clear the wide AOD. I will check out the Dana 24 as I am not opposed at all to the divorced T\C in any way. In fact my first "new" pickup was a '72 Ford F250 with all the bells and whistles and it had the divorced T\C, but with that model the thing "did" in fact hang down - thus, the factory "highboy".

I live in Colorado BTW.
 
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OK jpp, I was totally thinking of a different auto trans when commenting on the width of the AOD. It's not very wide at all. So, on the center to center of main drive line to front drive, my optimum "window" of front drive shaft route is 8" to 11".

And clearance to frame is a scant "15 from center of drive line to frame.

So, how would that divorced Dana 24 work out within these parameters?

Thanks
 
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If you want to keep an AOD find a 4x4 version one from a mid 80's Fullsize truck/Bronco with a 5.0L.

Then get a NP205 transfercase from a 78-79 Ford 4x4 ( married type ) . The NP205 will bolt right up to the 4x4 AOD. And it's much narrower then the NP208/BW1345. It should fit much better.
 
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Another possible option is to check with advanced adapters they may be able to fix you up with an adapter to a dana 20 (don't get much smaller than that). Or possibly for a dana 300 (may not have made driverside drop).

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Great advice guys!! Thanks!! I'll post some photos when I figure out how.(when I tried to attach a file, it says to "post url here". Any "advice" on this procedure?? What the heck is a "url" - looks like they want a website or?? A pic is just a pic... isn't it??? Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by 51-f1-bob
Great advice guys!! Thanks!! I'll post some photos when I figure out how.(when I tried to attach a file, it says to "post url here". Any "advice" on this procedure?? What the heck is a "url" - looks like they want a website or?? A pic is just a pic... isn't it??? Thanks


Load your pics on photobucket. Scroll over the picture a menu will drop down. Click on the IMG code link. it should automatically copy it. Then just paste it in your post.
 


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