I think I remember a stat saying there was about 95 out of 100 made with automatics. With a ratio like that it's pretty easy to see why the ditched it.

Funny the Boss 302 is not available with an automatic.

 

Sorry Tom. You lobbed up a slow one and I couldn't resist.

I have. Every once in a while my left leg and right arm get out of sync, things get discombobulated, and the gears grind. I ususally cuss the transmission or clutch pedal while I try to re-combobulate myself.

Well, as the vote stands at the moment I'm typing this, we have 34 folks who say no way to the manual and we have 34 folks who are willing to pay up to $1,500 more to be able to get the manual. 16 of those 34 state they would possibly pay more than the additional $1,500.

That still leaves 34 for and 34 against. I guess you and I share different opinions of what basic economics might be.

 

Good to see you're pushing four hundred K Chris!

 

Yea, coming up on having to change that serpentine belt again Andy. I've done it every 100k so far and it seems to be working for me.

 

I like Manual tranny but I wouldn't pay extra for it.
Trav

 

Haha so you have three spares under the back seat or what?

I put a new one on mine once and it made noise. I put the stock one back on and it's now pushing 300k. Too bad you're so far away. Stewart and I are scheming to have another G-T-G. Saw the pics from Houston and both of us are itchin' to git wrenchin'

Didn't I offer to pick you up from the airport once? Offer still stands.

 

Not all of them. The "M" mode on the 2011+ Super Duty trucks acts just like a manual transmission with a torque converter. I could lug 6th gear at 1,100 RPMs at WOT, or I could run it to 3,500 RPMs and upshift when I wanted to. A couple times I screwed up and went WOT and forgot I was in "M" mode...the truck redlined in 1st gear and refused to upshift until I realized what happened and told it to. This truck will stay in the gear that's commanded, and as long as you'll stay above 1,000 RPMs on upshift you can get any gear you want.

Yup, you see them in small cars like the Focus and heavy duty trucks. A coworker has a 2012 Focus assigned to him, and that's a pretty nice driving car. No clutch but it drives and feels just like a manual transmission, which is part of the reason it gets 37 MPGs on the highway!

Now that's funny, I don't care who you are.

Not sure where you got your figures, but I don't think there's anything this side of a Ferrari with a $10,000 transmission. Right now it appears that the most expensive auto is the new 6R140, which is selling for a whopping $4,600 from TOUSLY FORD. That's quite a bit, but expect it to come down in time. For comparison the manual tranny in the 2010 SD sells for $3045.34.

No apologies necessary, I thought it was hiliarous. I'm normally the guy who's trying to keep people on topic and here I'm getting beaten for it.

 

Can you still have the traction control with a manual transmission?

 

My Mustang does, not sure why you couldn't in a truck.

 

Interestingly enough the automatic transmission for a 2003 F-350 (4R100) is ~ $2,000. The 6 speed is ~ $2.600.

 

When talking $ between an auto and a manual I wasn't thinking of new vehicle costs but rather replacement costs when either tanks. I based my thoughts on what, 3-7 hundred $ for a new clutch as opposed to 5+ thousand$ (10 years ago) for a rebuilt auto. If I'm out to lunch here, I'll gladly eat crow!

 

These aren't new vehicle costs, but the cost for a replacement transmission through a popular online Ford dealer. $5K seems like an awful lot for a rebuild...

 

Your out to lunch. My local shop can put in a rebuilt (and upgraded) 4R100 or 5R110 with new converter for well under $3k installed. Go to dealer and get a quote on a clutch replacement (with materials) for a ZF6 SD. Don't be surprised if the quote is over a grand. Your figures are not even remotely accurate.

 

I've driven a 5-speed Honda Accord with traction control, it sort of detunes the engine, but doesn't stall the car out, you can push the pedal to the floor and it only delivers what power it should. It works pretty good.

 

That's good to know, and the way it should work. I occasionally drive a GM 1/2ton with the 6-speed auto & M mode and +/- is more of a feel good thing as all it really does is accomplish the same thing the O/D off switch does on an E4OD.