Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

1992 f150 regular cab ford 8.8 to ford 9inch rear end swap?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #16  
Old 01-26-2012, 11:19 AM
Kemicalburns's Avatar
Kemicalburns
Kemicalburns is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bend,OR
Posts: 14,265
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
the C clips dont break, the axles are what breaks and you would have that regardless. its the fact the axle is only held in by the c clip allows the wheel to walk out on ya.
 
  #17  
Old 01-26-2012, 11:24 AM
andym's Avatar
andym
andym is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Bonita Springs FL
Posts: 19,402
Received 27 Likes on 27 Posts
Originally Posted by rla2005
you will need a reverse rotation ring and pinion set.
There is nothing reverse about the rotation. They rotate the same way as any other driver side drop front axle.

It's called reverse spiral.

Originally Posted by Kemicalburns
the C clips dont break, the axles are what breaks and you would have that regardless. its the fact the axle is only held in by the c clip allows the wheel to walk out on ya.
C-clip eliminator kit - problem solved!
 
  #18  
Old 01-26-2012, 12:31 PM
SCRebel's Avatar
SCRebel
SCRebel is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Conway, South Carolina
Posts: 1,293
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by andym

C-clip eliminator kit - problem solved!
Never heard of the C-clip being a problem, But the kit sounds interesting.
 
  #19  
Old 01-26-2012, 01:07 PM
andym's Avatar
andym
andym is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Bonita Springs FL
Posts: 19,402
Received 27 Likes on 27 Posts
The problem isn't the c-clips themselves. What happens when you break a shaft on a stock 8.8" axle? Everything outboard of the break will walk right off the vehicle. The remaining axle pieces, the flange, drum and wheel. Not good.
 
  #20  
Old 01-26-2012, 02:50 PM
critterf1's Avatar
critterf1
critterf1 is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Newport, N.C.
Posts: 2,057
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Breaking the cross-pin is normally the reason axles walk out.
 
  #21  
Old 01-26-2012, 04:15 PM
rla2005's Avatar
rla2005
rla2005 is online now
Hotshot
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 19,586
Received 1,164 Likes on 919 Posts
Originally Posted by andym
There is nothing reverse about the rotation. They rotate the same way as any other driver side drop front axle.

It's called reverse spiral.
I posted what was listed at the website. If you have an issue with their description do not blame me.

Cut from another web source:

One way to achieve more driveline clearance and reduce universal joint angle is to use a special center section with reverse rotation ring & pinion gears. Both Ford and GM have used this design in the front of 4WD vehicles for years. A reverse rotation ring & pinion has the opposite tooth spiral on gear teeth that a standard rear differential uses. If a standard rotation differential was flipped upside down, the results would be the wheels turning in reverse while in forward gears and in forward when the transmission is in reverse. The reverse spiral on the gear teeth make it possible to raise the pinion above the axle centerline and still drive the wheels in the right direction.

Here is the complete URL: High Pinion Third Members

To your point, yes the reverse spiral cut of the gear teeth are what makes it work, but the term reverse spiral refers to the teeth on the reverse rotation ring and pinion gears. Either terminology is correct in my eyes.
 
  #22  
Old 01-26-2012, 05:27 PM
pro70golfer14's Avatar
pro70golfer14
pro70golfer14 is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Palatka, Florida
Posts: 334
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I swapped to a 9 inch in my 93. It bolts right in. But you really should get a 1-1/2 longer drive shaft, but you don't need it. I would get it some people wouldn't.

I personally am one that doesn't think the 8.8 is a bad as every one thinks. But it will in not handle 35 inch for a extended amount of time. I am speaking from a experience not what other people have told me. I went through 2 sets of spider gears with 35 inch all-terrains on my truck. But other then that I had no problems out of it. I think that if you put them on there and just used them on the pavement it would hold up fine for a good long while. but....
For the people that think the 8.8 and 9 inch are same in strength, I have had 38 inch T.S.L.s on my truck since the day the 9 inch was swapped in there. And now the tires and the rear-end have been in and on the truck longer then the 35s were.
So make off it what you wish but I think it is obvious what is stronger.

For my speedometer i moved the speedometer to the transfer-case. It is off though when I am going 55 it is showing 4. yes 4. so I need to play with the electronics some. But I will post results for that when I do it. Until then I hope the info helps.
 
  #23  
Old 01-26-2012, 05:51 PM
andym's Avatar
andym
andym is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Bonita Springs FL
Posts: 19,402
Received 27 Likes on 27 Posts
Originally Posted by rla2005
I posted what was listed at the website. If you have an issue with their description do not blame me.
I wasn't "blaming" anyone.

I was just pointing out a very common mistake. No one is holding a gun to your head to use one term and not the other. If someone cares enough, one is correct and the other is not. If you don't care then don't let it bother you.
 
  #24  
Old 02-28-2012, 05:44 PM
Dan92's Avatar
Dan92
Dan92 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: IL
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
also would you guys know what spline count a 1979 bronco rear end would be? (9 inch) its got a 3.73 gear ratio. im looking to buy a third memeber and then put the axle under my truck
 
  #25  
Old 05-14-2012, 10:52 AM
Dan92's Avatar
Dan92
Dan92 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: IL
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
hey kemicalburns, you said that there are a few vss relocation kits out there? where would i find one i cant seem to see them anywhere on the internet.
 
  #26  
Old 05-14-2012, 10:54 AM
Dan92's Avatar
Dan92
Dan92 is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: IL
Posts: 84
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
pro70golfer14, what did you do with your sensor on your rear end? it didnt throw off your shifting?
 
  #27  
Old 05-14-2012, 11:11 AM
SCRebel's Avatar
SCRebel
SCRebel is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Conway, South Carolina
Posts: 1,293
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Dan92
also would you guys know what spline count a 1979 bronco rear end would be? (9 inch) its got a 3.73 gear ratio. im looking to buy a third memeber and then put the axle under my truck
The most popular is a 31 spline count, but you won't know for sure unlit you pull the axle out and count the teeth. There is a 28, 31, and 35 spline, maybe more.

Oh, and I have a 9" under my truck too, but I am taking it out. The housing is bent. I am going back to my 8.8, the jy doesn't have any 9"'s anymore.
 
  #28  
Old 05-14-2012, 12:41 PM
jumbofordman's Avatar
jumbofordman
jumbofordman is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Greenville, NC
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just so you know...I exploded a 9" all over Tellico (NC) with my 78 F-150, a built 400 and 35" tires. Broke both bearing caps right off the third member while climbing a really not that big a rock. I'd say you actually probably want a Dana 60 or Sterling axle, even though this means a change to 8 lug wheels.
 
  #29  
Old 05-14-2012, 02:29 PM
Edgethis's Avatar
Edgethis
Edgethis is online now
Lead Driver
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tobyhanma, PA
Posts: 6,303
Received 376 Likes on 284 Posts
Putting a D60 on the rear is easy, but putting one up front is not so easy. I think a nice, upgraded 8.8 will be fine. They run the 8.8 on the GT500s pushing over 650 HP,95% of our trucks won't get anywhere near that....ever
 
  #30  
Old 05-14-2012, 05:54 PM
BigBlueOx's Avatar
BigBlueOx
BigBlueOx is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Rusty, Maine
Posts: 1,226
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Edgethis
I think a nice, upgraded 8.8 will be fine. They run the 8.8 on the GT500s pushing over 650 HP,95% of our trucks won't get anywhere near that....ever
I agree. As long as you replace the spider gears with a locker of some sort. The spiders are the weak link. I've never broken an axle and I do donuts on dry pavement with 33's.
If your on a budget like everyone else then I'd buy 4:10's for the 8.8 since you've already got the front all set.
 


Quick Reply: 1992 f150 regular cab ford 8.8 to ford 9inch rear end swap?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:17 PM.