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More interesting GF-6 inputs, along with easy to read updated spider diagrams, that outline comparisons between current GF-5, Dexos & upcpoming GF-6
MOTOR Magazine | Lubricant Trends | Change Agents — Emerging trends and improved lubricants can propel your business forward
 
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More discussions about what to do about an universal lube & or GF-6 lubes & so far no one seems to know how to address all concerns.
Industry Debates 'Universal' Oils
 
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Well they're already talking about a 6-9 month delay in the intro of PCMO GF-6 & HDEO PC-11. PCEO
 
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Gf-6 Input from Chevron/Orinite https://www.oronite.com/pdfs/NOLNarticle.pdf
 
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GF-6 Delayed Until Jan 2017

Well as rumored earlier this year, its about to be officially announced that the Jan 2016 GF-6 roll out, will be delayed until Jan 2017, as the industry couldn't get all of its ducks in a row, because of all the new changes & test protocols needed to verify the new tests. The complete story as it now stands here. GF-6 Delayed Again
 
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GF-6/PC-11 Update

Up dates on HDEO PC-11 & GF-6, by Infineums Insight posting. Specification update - March 2014

Right now it looks like the next HDEO PC-11 offering will be around the beginning of 2016 & because of yet to be developed testing protocals, ect, GF-6 gas engine oils offerings will we pushed back to maybe early 2017, with Two categories, like GF-6A thats backwards compatable & GF-6B, the newer lower viscosity won't be backward compatable with older engines, so its likely to cause some confusion in the market place & if used will likely cause damage in some older engines whos oil pumps can't supply enough volume of the newer lower viscosity engine oils.
Just how the containers are to be labeled to minimize consumer confusion, is still being debated.
EDIT: GF-6 Packaging input by Lube Report. http://www.lubesngreases.com/luberep...ecs/-6076.html
 
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Lubrizol's GF-6 Web site

Lubrizol has created a GF-6 website for us to click around on, that's trying to capture all that's going on with the development of GF-6 lubrication here. EDIT: Link removed 5/1/2016 because Security Essentials detected the link is now infected with 3 versions of malware Exploit!!!! :HTML/Axpergle.AL, :JS/Axpergle :JS/Axpergle.BO, so if any of you have recently clicked on/used this old link, perform at least a quick security scan, better a Full scan & remove any Exploit malware found right away. I'm going to inform the Lubrizol website of the infection, as it was a clean link when put up back in 2014.
 
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GF-6 & PC-11 input from Infineum. Looks like a lot of industry foot dragging, table pounding & foot stomping is going on & GM is at it again, muddying up the water by striking off on its own with updated Dexos specs, before all the dust has settled & everyone has agreed on a GF-6 specification.
Lots of lubrication dust ups in the making, all of which are likely to confuse the general public about which lube their vehicle should use.
North American specification update - June 2015
 
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BUMP: Update!
A GF-6 mini tutorial that's easy to read, nice graphs too. https://www.oronite.com/pdfs/pc11_dexos.pdf
 
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BUMP: GF-6 & SN+ Update

Update to SN+ & GF-6 https://noln.net/2018/04/01/on-the-c...gf-6-and-more/

So it seems that SN+ engine oil recipes will finally be licensed & containers labeled as noted in the article above, on May-1-2018.
Many lube marketers have been lowering the Ca content of their engine oil recipes for a couple of years now, so we may be using crank case lubes that meet the lower Ca content of SN+ requirements, that addresses the LSPI = Low Speed Pre-Ignition problem that vehicle mfgrs wanted addressed without further delay in the in the GF-6 approval interim.
Its been said we shouldn't use a engine oil with more than 2000ppm Ca in TGDI engines & some suggest not over 1500ppm in those engines. Some oils now have around 1000ppm Ca.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that Sodium is also being lowered, or done away with in SN+ engine oil recipes, as it too is a player in promoting LSPI. SO, those of us with a stash of engine oil, Don't use any that has Sodium, or Calcium content above 1500-2000 ppm in any direct injected, or turbo-direct injected gasoline engines.

Have a look here to see what Calcium/Ca content your oil has. PQIA PCMO Sample Summary List Scroll down & click on the lube name your using, or want to use & it'll open a VOA = Virgin Oil Analysis test of the oil & we can look at the Calcium/Ca content & other additive levels we're interested in. Many oils have gone back to the GF-5 levels of Boron & Moly, as they aren't a LSPI problem.
 
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Yet another reason not to pay extra for syn.

Preliminary data shows that additives affect oil performance much more than base stock selection or other factors.
 
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