I have one thing to say.....Ford sure did hit a homerun with these trucks!!

Seriously,..look at the sales numbers for 2011. Ford has won in the top selling for over 30 years in a row.

Don 't believe these 4 stories will deter too many not to buy. The truck is awesome. I have owned over 15 brand new Fords. They love me and I bleed blue.

Best thing is,...I know of at least 15 new 2011 f250 owners personally and no issues. They are everywhere aroound here..can't turn a corner without seeing one.

GO FORD!!

Sorry for the troubles you guys are having, I'd be pizzed also. But the odds are in my favor and everyone else's!! No worries here,...money well spent.

Shane

 

I agree with p12483. Make a video. Pull no punches. Tell only the truth. Post it to YouTube.

I love my truck and have had very minor issues with it. All resolved by the dealer.

Just my 2cents.

 

Wow, I hoped i would not have seen another post like this in a long time. Ford, you better be watching!!

 

On another site a ford mechanic posted he has two 6.7s waiitng for fuel system replacments but the people wont pay for them so how many other 6.7s are out there that Ford will not warranty. The vast majority of people do not get on forums so we never hear about them. I mean does all the diesel fuel in the country have water in it, what about if your pulling a fifth wheel around the country you don't have any control over the diesel you put in.

 

Another heretic has arrived with reports of more HPFP failures...The pile of junk Bosch CP4.1 HPFP's from 6.7 Ford's must be getting even deeper over at Bosch...

Your fears are well founded. Bosch has made it very clear that USA fuel standards are not conducive to long HPFP life. There is little an owner can do to protect them-self from purchasing suspect fuel. The only remedy is to make sure you add enough lubricity additive to overcome the shortfall. I use the Motorcraft PM22A additive. I add fuel, add additive and pray...it's worked so far...

Wait until the insurance company's get tired of paying for Ford's warranty issues...

Kumbaya

 

have you torn apart your pump yet? I thought you purchased it from the insurance company. Whats the status on it?

 

yup...tore it down...it's broke

The story of my pump autopsy has been told many times. The pump was examined by three automotive engineers. Two of them have extensive fuel injection pump experience at Detroit Diesel. One of these works exclusively with Bosch HPFP's.

Summary: The pump self destructed. There was no evidence of water anywhere in the system. When the Bosch HPFP specialist looked at the so called disqualifying part he laughed. He also said the failure appears identical to hundreds he has seen across the board for Bosch CP series pumps. He placed the blame directly on the poor fuel quality, particularly the high scar numbers, in the USA fuel supply. It's the lack of lubricity...period...and an owner has no control over the crappy fuel he might buy...

These guy's have no dog in the fight. They spent over an hour looking at all the evidence. Their opinion was unanimous. The pump has also been examined by more than a dozen experienced mechanics. Not one has taken the position that water infiltration was the culprit. All agree that Ford should have warrantied the repair...

Regards

 

So why aren't there thousands of HPCR fuel pump failures with Cummins, Duramax, Navistar and Ford diesel engines if lubricity is the culprit? If Ford sells 100,000 6.7 engines and 100 pumps fail, why didn't the other 99,900 pumps have issues?

 

When I was a kid they were cool in farmland And 4H fair time. The farm girls loved them. Then they were easier to fill with both tanks on one side. Then they were the only one with 2 tanks. Now that Im old and fat with a bad hip theyre the only one of the 3 with running boards from the factory, so I can test drive one. But you cant get the plastic running boards with the lariat. It costs $1000 later. You cant seem to get what you want, I guess you get what you need. And I need a small step ladder so I can test drive a new Chevy. Trying a chevy must be like comming out of the closet. I hope my friends will understand.

 

Reality is, there just isn't a widespread issue. Admittedly, there are pockets in the country that are notorious for poor fuel. Thats where a lot of these issues come from. I belong to several "Ford techs only" forums. They will discuss issues involving different vehicles. The majority of the 6.7 hpfp concerns are misfueling (gas/DEF in the fuel tanks). A few are the "muddy fuel" discussions. None of these are warrantable. And yes, many throw tantrums when they are denied warranty. Even Shephards Lincoln has discussed rust that was found in a fuel pump.

 

Up here in Canada you can get the plastic running boards with the Lariat, the chrome ones are a removable upgrade at order time.

 

so my question is do we have any reports of the fuel pump damage being covered?? its sounds like all we hear about are the ones that are not covered.

 

Vince...

Shepherds did not find any rust whatsoever in the HPFP in my truck. The service manager, Ray, posted on your tech hotline that the very part that the first dealer replaced under warranty on his second attempt to fix my truck was the reason for the denial. There was a slight discoloration of the part that sits in the mounting socket. There was no other discolorations or evidence of rust anywhere in the system. The FSE told the service manager that had the truck not been at dealer number one, there would have been no denial of warranty.

Ray has looked at the disassembled pump. Unless he is telling you a different story than me, he would not agree with your position. His diesel techs have also seen the pump...same verdict,...no water...

We have had this dialog before. Furthermore, the very part we are discussing was analyzed by the other fuel system engineers..no water damage present. At the beginning of my debacle you said there was a huge CYA going on at dealer number one. You were a lot closer to the truth then than you are now.

This OP had no fuel system water noted. He had a valve failure. The water weasel out on the warranty is even more ridiculous than mine...Shame on Ford

Regards

 

I don't own a new Ford and have never seen the engine except in a picture. What I don't understand though is if there is damage in the HPFP caused by water, why didn't the water separator filter the water out.

If the separator is doing it's job it doesn't matter if the water in fuel light comes on, the separator should filter out the water until it can't filter any more and the engine shuts down from no fuel.

Seems to me like the real culprit is either a defective water separator or it's not adequate for the intended purpose.

Water simply should not get past the separator!

Perhaps a guy should stick an after market filter/separator on as soon as you get home. Whatever the 6.7 is using isn't doing the job.

I love the look of the new trucks and the way they are said to run.

Sure feel bad for the guys that not only have a truck payment but then the added payment to make a new truck run again.

 

This is good logic and has been discussed before in another thread. I think you are 100% correct in your line of thinking here. At this point is when the rep from Ford would say "well, water did get past it" and you would say "no, it can't" and the rep would say "yes, it did", and so on.

What can you say? Bad things happen, some of these pumps have failed and some dept. at the big Ford office is standing firm. Yeah, it sounds like an appalling deal to us who read about it but we don't know the whole story. I only know one thing, I love my truck and it runs perfectly after 84,000 miles so far. I drove 200 miles yesterday empty with just the wifey, averaged 19.1 mpg while cruising as comfy as I would be in a Mercedes sedan.