Loss of MPG after plug change
#31
+1 on the CRC mass air cleaner. I use it on both of my MAF equipped vehicles every oil change. You would be surprised how much can accumulate on the wires just through normal driving, especially if there is a lot of highway miles. You ever see oil on the front of your ride after a road trip, it went through the air intake as well... I ditched my K&N's over this issue a while back. Still researching washable filters that are non-oiled. On my Mustang since it has a CAI I have one of those green cone filters they sell at Carlisle, I forget the brand, it's been a couple years. I'll have to look in the spring when I pull it out of hibernation. I know since it is not oiled, it has been a lot nicer to the MAF the past few oil changes.
And the TSB does call for putting the nickel based antisieze on the shells. I would also suggest getting rid of the Champions, Autolite and Champion arent as good as they used to be since they moved their plants off shore.
Here is the TSB:
And the TSB does call for putting the nickel based antisieze on the shells. I would also suggest getting rid of the Champions, Autolite and Champion arent as good as they used to be since they moved their plants off shore.
Here is the TSB:
#33
Well I cleaned the MAF and only drove a few miles of mixed terrain, hgwy, back roads, etc. but it seems to be much better according to the message center mileage. I need to put alot more miles on to get a better reading on what's going on. I think I'll hold off on the plug change for a few days till I get a better grip on the situation. Resetting the computer is probably not a bad idea either. I guess I'll have to drink a few beers and watch football tomorrow on my only day off instead of working on the truck. I'll post again after a few days of road testing to let you know how I made out. Thanks everyone for the tips and valuable input on this. Everyone have a happy, healthy and safe new year.
#34
#35
I changed the plugs on a 04 to Champions last month and would NEVER go back to OEM Autolite/motorcraft again. Just peace of mind knowing they will not break in two again OEM like is one thing . But also the slight increase in both MPG and performance (that you would expect from a tune up ) was also nice . Also no matter how much anti seize you put on the Autolites/motorcrafts it wont stop them from breaking .
#36
Sorry for the delay in posting I was trying to get a god accurate mileage reading under all conditions. I cleaned the maf and gained around 1/2 mpg. Still down 2 1/2 since the plug change. I'm going to reinstall new OE Motorcraft tomorrow although I really hate too. I'll post as soon as I get some viable results on the mileage. Sorry now I sold my Lisle tool after the first change! The good news is I won't have to take these plugs out (if it works) for at least a couple of years.
#37
#38
Matt,
I wish you hadn't said that. Now you've got me thinking again and that's usually not a good thing. I have noticed in the past on other vehicles that when they change to the winter blend here it does make a big difference in the gas mileage. You are also correct about the warming up the vehicle part. The only part that bothers me is if the truck is running too rich it may foul the O2 sensors or worse eventually plug up the converters. They do emission testing here I guess I could hook it up to the machine but I'm not sure that would solve my problem if I don't have the old readings to compare it to. I love the idea of the Champion one piece plug design it gives me a real relief on that end. And as I've mentioned before the truck runs great before and after the plug change. Maybe I'll wait till this summer and see if the gas change and driving habits does it. As always thanks again for all the good input.
I wish you hadn't said that. Now you've got me thinking again and that's usually not a good thing. I have noticed in the past on other vehicles that when they change to the winter blend here it does make a big difference in the gas mileage. You are also correct about the warming up the vehicle part. The only part that bothers me is if the truck is running too rich it may foul the O2 sensors or worse eventually plug up the converters. They do emission testing here I guess I could hook it up to the machine but I'm not sure that would solve my problem if I don't have the old readings to compare it to. I love the idea of the Champion one piece plug design it gives me a real relief on that end. And as I've mentioned before the truck runs great before and after the plug change. Maybe I'll wait till this summer and see if the gas change and driving habits does it. As always thanks again for all the good input.
#40
BTW I have "heard", don't know for sure, that the Brisk plug, although one piece is a cooler plug designed for for racing and supercharged applications.
HYPO
#41
#42
Well I got some new Motorcraft OE 2 piece plugs and installed them. Much to my dismay the mileage still sucks. Same as it was after I installed the new Champions around 13 overall, down from 16 before. I guess it must be the crap winter blend gas here in the Catskill Mtns. of NY. Just bad timeing I changed the plugs around the same time the gas must have switched over. In the past I've noticed a big drop in my other vehicles because of this. One thing I did learn (I think) from this is this time I changed the plugs with a hot motor and the Champions were very easy, almost loose in comeing out. I put them in cold. I guess hot is the way to go I should have done that with the originals. Unforturnately now I have the crap 2 pc. plugs in my motor. I guess I'll leave them in awhile and then remove them and trash em. I want to put the Champs back in since they worked as well and no more nightmares with broken plugs. Thanks everybody for your input and hope my comments may help someone in the future.
#43
#44
I didn't mean the motor was that hot, I just warmed it up for a few minutes. Besides by the time you get around to the actual changing of the plugs after you remove the computer and bracket and the coils the motor has cooled considerably. The plugs being steel still retain alot of heat though.
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